Thread: Cutting....Myth or not a myth
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02-24-2005, 07:08 AM #1Junior Member
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Cutting....Myth or not a myth
I'm tired of reading too different stories. To use ass as important part of cutting or not to. Of course its alot of ur diet, cardio, and workout, thats a given. By why wouldnt you cycle like you would if ur trying to bulk, doesnt make any sense to me? I keep reading use it just to maintain muscle and thats it from people.........Why? We put together nasty bulking cycles, and maintain a diet for that, so why would in cutting, a solid cycle of say anavar , prop, tren , primo, Clen , t-3.....etc.... be good, instead people say you dont need that much? But why? Why wouldnt it help? Wanted to here what u all had to say, before I start monday.
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02-24-2005, 07:36 AM #2
Sure it helps, it spares muscle, and some supstances burn fat (t3, clen ...), but it will do absolutely nothing without a VERY strict diet and lots of cardio, yet most people think diet and cardio are not important.
Similar how people do a massive bulking cycle, don't eat enough and then wonder how come they didn't gain sh!t.
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02-24-2005, 07:46 AM #3Junior Member
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Ive already started a very strict diet, and my cardio is done in the morning around 630am, for 45mins at bp around 128. But I keep hearing you dont need all of that for cutting, well as you said if you are following strict diet, cardio...it could only help lean muscle growth inturn, making muscles larger, add that to a strict diet and cardio routine......equals ripped if you asked me..thanks for the imput
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02-24-2005, 08:07 AM #4
Run a stack then. clen t3 and test prop is good. You don't need primo until your bf% hits lower than say 5%.
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02-24-2005, 08:13 AM #5Originally Posted by Muddog50
Anytime bro, good luck
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02-24-2005, 08:13 AM #7Originally Posted by ChefJ
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02-24-2005, 11:55 PM #8VET Retired
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Steroids burn fat PERIOD. The effect is increased with calorie restriction and cardio.
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02-24-2005, 11:57 PM #9Originally Posted by big k.l.g
then I would be a ripped 350lbs
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02-25-2005, 12:04 AM #10VET Retired
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Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
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02-25-2005, 12:08 AM #11
I would agree that tren helps burn fat. I did a prop/tren/winny cycle and kept a strict cutting diet mirroring the sticky in the diet forum and went from about 15%bf to 11% with no cardio.
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02-25-2005, 12:12 AM #12VET Retired
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Originally Posted by sooners04
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02-25-2005, 12:15 AM #13
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02-25-2005, 12:23 AM #14
steroids do help alittle but nothing like a good strict diet and cardio. I believe tren is the only proven fat burner all winny will do is harden you up it is a hardner and only works if you have bodyfat under 12 percent otherwise useless. I like eca and clen these two burn fat big time. Overall it is a proven fact that steroids don;t burn fat good cardio and strict diet do. go first thing in morning at 65 percent of your heart rate on the treadmill before breakfast and watch the fat go. I have a buddy that actually puts a garbage on him and runs in the morning to make him sweat more and lose weight. crazy next time im just gonna tell him jump in the garbage truck why not just get eca ephedrine hcl , 20mg 3 times a day , asprin 300mg and caffeine 200mg watch the fat go than. peace salu is the name steroids is my game .
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The garbage bag thing will make you sweat like its nobodys buisness. But a trainer told me its also like putting your organs in an oven. Very effect technique though.
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Originally Posted by jollygreenGIANT
Remember just because deca causes some water retention doesn't mean it does not have fat burning properties. Letrozole can prevent the estrogenic/progestinic sides like bloat.Last edited by BajanBastard; 02-25-2005 at 12:35 AM.
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02-25-2005, 12:51 AM #17
yeah your right big test and deca do burn fat alittle but not anadrol or dbol . But the best cutting drugs would be fina or i should say tren a, masteron , anavar , winny, eq,clen , cytomel , eca, lipo 6, hydroxycut with ephedra or ecy. and of course strict diet and cardio. I like tren as fat burner i think it is underated everything talks about it as being a mass gainer with no water but they forget tren is a potent fat burner combine that with winny which in binds well because of the ar receptor and you will get lean hard and cut as a rock my buddy did this and it was dramatic changes in his physique peace out salu i don;t do steroids i make them ha ha im a roid monkey or should i say roid gorilla since im so huge now .
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02-25-2005, 01:00 AM #18Originally Posted by saluu
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02-25-2005, 01:02 AM #19Originally Posted by saluu
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02-25-2005, 01:16 AM #20
for each pound of muscle added your body burn another 100cals/day so roids do burn more fat indirectly.
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02-25-2005, 02:53 AM #21Originally Posted by swedes
I think not. Maybe you meant 10cals per pound? That is a little bit more believeable.
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02-25-2005, 04:45 PM #22Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11
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02-25-2005, 07:02 PM #23Junior Member
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Originally Posted by ChefJ
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03-02-2005, 11:33 AM #24Junior Member
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Id like to know also....bump
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03-02-2005, 11:58 AM #25Junior Member
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so running 250mg of test and 200mg of deca would get rid of bodyfat as well as putting some muscle on...i dont see why it wouldnt
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03-02-2005, 12:00 PM #26Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11
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03-02-2005, 12:07 PM #27Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Stumbo
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