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    looking for help on crtiquing this cycle

    Wk 1 - 500 sust, 300 deca , 20 dbol
    Wk 2 - 750 sust, 300 deca, 25 dbol
    Wk 3 - 750 sust, 300 deca, 30 dbol
    Wk 4 - 750 sust, 300 deca, 30 dbol
    Wk 5 - 750 sust, 300 deca, 30 dbol
    Wk 6 - 750 sust, 300 deca, clomid 50 mgs a day, nolavex- 50 mgs a day
    Wk 7 - 750 sust, 300 deca, clomid 50 mgs a day, nolavex - 50
    Wk 8 - 750 sust, 300 deca, clomid 50 mgs a day, novalex – 50
    Wk 9 - 750 sust, 300 deca, clomid 50 mgs a day, novalex - 50
    Wk 10 - 750 sust, 300 deca, clomid 50 mgs a day, novalex - 50
    Wk 11 - hcg 500 mgs
    Wk 12 – hcg 500 mgs
    Wk 13 – hcg 500 mgs

    I want to taper of my cycle by taking clenbuterol , parabolan and masteron /winstrol for about 7 weeks -what week should I start and how much dosage should I take?

    Should I take the clomid and nolvadex the weeks while im taking the high dosages of dbol or is it okay the way its set up right now? im also thinking maybe by tapering off with the cutting agents I can can avoid the hcg and just shoot some test or sust 250 every 7-10 days after my cycle to keep my physique.

    any suggestions will really help thanks b-real

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    Mate is this your first cycle ? What are your stats and workout expereince ? We can give you better advice if we know thses things. And that cycle sucks so get back to us ASAP

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    bro this cycle is all over the place. thsi what a cycle should look like
    1-12 sust 500mg week
    1-10 deca 400mg
    1-4 d-bol 30mg
    1-pct nolv 10mg
    1-10 b 6 200mg

    no need for hcg and if you did wont to run it you would have it mid cycle

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    First off, what are your stats, and cycle experience? We'll need that to be able to help you with the doseages you've chosen.

    Second, here are a few suggestions for you, but I've gotta say - you really need to do some research. This cycle is really f**king wack. I'll try to point you in the right direction though.

    I'd run the whole cycle a little longer, on account of the long esters - at least 12 wks.

    Why a different doseage of Sust for week 1?

    IMO, you've got the dbol tapered the wrong way. You want the highest doses in the first weeks to kick start the cycle while you wait for the longer esters to kick in. I would run the dbol 4 weeks only.

    You started your PCT in the middle of your cycle. WTF?

    Just switch your HCG with the nolva/clomid and you'll be on the right track.

    You do not "taper" off your cycle with other AAS. You stop AAS altogether and begin clomid/nolva therapy to get your natural test production up ASAP.

    "I want to taper of my cycle by taking clenbuterol , parabolan and masteron /winstrol for about 7 weeks -what week should I start and how much dosage should I take?

    Should I take the clomid and nolvadex the weeks while im taking the high dosages of dbol or is it okay the way its set up right now? im also thinking maybe by tapering off with the cutting agents I can can avoid the hcg and just shoot some test or sust 250 every 7-10 days after my cycle to keep my physique. "

    Just forget all about these two ideas - Not a flame, bro - you just got yourself way off track somehow.

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    Looks good minus the post cycle therapy in the middle of the cycle & the HCG .

    Clomid is taken at the END of a cycle, typically 3-4 weeks after your last shot. Probably 5 weeks after with deca in there.

    And drop the HCG... or research it a bit more as well.

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    were are you people getting all your cycle info from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Pro
    Looks good minus the post cycle therapy in the middle of the cycle & the HCG .

    Clomid is taken at the END of a cycle, typically 3-4 weeks after your last shot. Probably 5 weeks after with deca in there.

    And drop the HCG... or research it a bit more as well.
    Bro this is crap. You need to reseach as well.

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    Question back again

    check it out im 22 5'9 150 college student and im sick of just getting drunk all i wanna do is eat, sleep, lift and study. ive taken 1 cycle before this test cyp and dbol for 10 weeks just 1 cc all the way through and 20 mgs of dbol and some clomid i made great gains, i was about 170, but then i wanted to change **** up and just get a six pack so i started doing a lot of cardio now im back to the mindset of getting mass then just taking a cutting cycle. i wanna take the deca , sust, and dbol through the whole cycle and i was wondering if i can start taking any cutting agents during my mass cycle so i can ease into the rest of the cutting cycle coming off the juice all together in like 16 weeks ripped at like 175 with less than 8 % body fat.......break dwn the cycle and tell me how i should go about using the deca,test,dbol,clomid,clen ,winny,parabolan ,etc.... ......thanks breal

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    why should we do all the work for you do a search dont be lazy. i showed you what a deca test cycle should look like it you wont more for cutting you ned to learn first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bherkes
    the deca,test,dbol,clomid,clen,winny,parabolan,etc.... ......thanks breal
    way to much gear for a 150lb person. With just diet, cardio, and proper training you can hit 175 easily. You can do it really easy with just sust. Dont take all those, you dont even know how to run them

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    fu-ck i was in a good mood and you just pissed me off

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    Bro, cutting is more about diet than the AAS, so keep that in mind.

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    im researching right now im just im gunna run it 1-12 sust 500, 1-10 deca 300, 1-4 dbol 35mgs, when should i run the clomid and nova 8-10? should i take clen ?

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    nolv 1-pct 10mg clomid 14 days after last shoot of test

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    bro this cycle is all over the place. thsi what a cycle should look like
    1-12 sust 500mg week
    1-10 deca 400mg
    1-4 d-bol 30mg
    1-10 b 6 200mg

    no need for hcg and if you did wont to run it you would have it mid cycle
    run it like that.... start PCT 3 weeks AFTER your last sust shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    nolv 1-pct 10mg clomid 14 days after last shoot of test
    isnt it 3 weeks after sust?

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    i like to start pct 14 days and run it for 5 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    isnt it 3 weeks after sust?
    That was my understanding, because the long ester in Sust is Test Decanoate, if I'm not mistaken. So you'd run it for the same duration as deca , and hit clomid 21 days after last injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    i like to start pct 14 days and run it for 5 weeks
    Of course, this would work just fine. Clomid's cheap anyway.

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    i also liek truib

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey
    That was my understanding, because the long ester in Sust is Test Decanoate, if I'm not mistaken. So you'd run it for the same duration as deca, and hit clomid 21 days after last injection.
    18 days after last sus shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by bherkes
    check it out im 22 5'9 150 college student and im sick of just getting drunk all i wanna do is eat, sleep, lift and study. ive taken 1 cycle before this test cyp and dbol for 10 weeks just 1 cc all the way through and 20 mgs of dbol and some clomid i made great gains, i was about 170, but then i wanted to change **** up and just get a six pack so i started doing a lot of cardio now im back to the mindset of getting mass then just taking a cutting cycle. i wanna take the deca, sust, and dbol through the whole cycle and i was wondering if i can start taking any cutting agents during my mass cycle so i can ease into the rest of the cutting cycle coming off the juice all together in like 16 weeks ripped at like 175 with less than 8 % body fat.......break dwn the cycle and tell me how i should go about using the deca,test,dbol,clomid,clen,winny,parabolan,etc.... ......thanks breal
    You are NOT going to gain 25lbs of REAL MUSCLE in 16 weeks while lowering your BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtdawg
    18 days after last sus shot
    Yes 18 days. Read this you guys PCT start times

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