creatine

**nkae168** · 02-27-2005, 11:13 PM

is it ok too take creatine while doing a cycle..

**Whitey** · 02-27-2005, 11:15 PM

Umm, yeah.

**Whitey** · 02-27-2005, 11:16 PM

It does bloat me up like a MF, but yeah. I hear the new CEE - creatine ethyl ester works great, with no bloat. Check out the Supp. forum for details.

**sniper320** · 02-27-2005, 11:16 PM

Its kind of a waste of money in my opinion, save the creatine till after your cycle.

**Whitey** · 02-27-2005, 11:18 PM

Creatine is cheap as hell, though. I still think it's good for volumizing the muscles on and off cycle. If you run it PC, you can maintain size, which is nice.

**nkae168** · 02-27-2005, 11:18 PM

thanx for the info guys..

**Whitey** · 02-27-2005, 11:19 PM

No problem, bro.

**nkae168** · 02-27-2005, 11:25 PM

this is not the same topic,but just wanted your input,started taking liquid clen .and got the shakes is that norm..

**Stumbo** · 02-27-2005, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by nkae168

this is not the same topic,but just wanted your input,started taking liquid clen.and got the shakes is that norm..

yes, very

**nkae168** · 02-27-2005, 11:43 PM

thanx bro..

**Whitey** · 02-27-2005, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by nkae168

this is not the same topic,but just wanted your input,started taking liquid clen.and got the shakes is that norm..

Ha Ha... If you can still type, you're okay.

**nkae168** · 02-28-2005, 12:00 AM

lol i hear you bro...

**Anabolica** · 02-28-2005, 12:27 AM

Save the creatine for pct and when off cycle

**Ntpadude** · 02-28-2005, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by nkae168

is it ok too take creatine while doing a cycle..

I dont see whats wrong with creatine. In fact my favorite protein shake is muscle milk and its fully dosed with creatine. If you dont want to absorb the creatine, drink a coke shortly before the muscle milk because caffiene will deactivate the creatine receptors for up to 3.5 hours after the caffiene ingestion.

Otherwise with no caffiene in the system, steroids will cause you to have profoundly improved absorbtion and useage of the creatine. One study showed an 80% improvement in absorbtion of creatine into the muscles. The bad thing is the intestines themselves also directly absorb and use creatine and bloat up substantially give you that growth hormone gut look while you are doing creatine. How attractive, big bloated gut but abs on top of it. Of course its all temporary, quit doing the creatine and within 2-3 weeks 100% of the gut bloat goes away.

Another thing to consider is creatine directly inflates body fat estimates as does steroid bloat. The two combined can incorrectly inflate your BF estimate by about 4%. SO when you PCT off steroids and creatine combined, sometimes the abs come out from nowhere and BF estimates drop way down.

**speak** · 02-28-2005, 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=Ntpadude] If you dont want to absorb the creatine, drink a coke shortly before the muscle milk because caffiene will deactivate the creatine receptors for up to 3.5 hours after the caffiene ingestion.
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So are you saying that if you take any form of caffiene before your work out, the creatine you take after your workout is wasted?

**Ntpadude** · 02-28-2005, 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=speak]

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

If you dont want to absorb the creatine, drink a coke shortly before the muscle milk because caffiene will deactivate the creatine receptors for up to 3.5 hours after the caffiene ingestion.
QUOTE]
So are you saying that if you take any form of caffiene before your work out, the creatine you take after your workout is wasted?

Absolutely. This is well documented. ALso I understand citrus, especially grapefruit can make it more difficult to absorb or use creatine as well.