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02-27-2005, 08:21 PM #1Junior Member
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Deca + Tren together
Both deca and tren are 19-nors, and bind to the progesterone receptor...and this is why everyone says not to take the two drugs together, to avoid bad progesterone induced gyno.
But...I have never seen ONE person post that they ran the two together at the same time, and I have never seen ONE person, post they ran the two together, and got gyno from doing so.
Are people just regurgitating the same old, same old in regards to using these drugs together? I am thinking about using the two...is it too risky, or is everyone just too **** paranoid?
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02-27-2005, 08:23 PM #2
i have never done it, but i have seen a few post where guys have run them together without any problems.
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02-27-2005, 08:25 PM #3
I'm running them together now. **knock on wood** So far, no problems
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02-27-2005, 08:25 PM #4Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Benches505
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02-27-2005, 08:26 PM #5Associate Member
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I actually think there would be no problem running them together. You can use some nolva with them in case.
Good luck
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are you going to add any test to the cycle. if you dont have test you are going to be shut down real hard. also i wold look out for gyno im not sure if b-6 only will help.
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02-27-2005, 08:29 PM #9Junior Member
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I am running test with it...I will use winny at a low dose, 25mg day as well, to see if that may block some progesterone effects...
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02-27-2005, 08:30 PM #10Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Benches505
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02-27-2005, 08:32 PM #11
The joints felt the lube effect around week 3. That is how I tell when it's kicked in
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ok so lay out your cycle for us
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02-27-2005, 08:33 PM #13Junior Member
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i would not wont to run the winny that long. i think you would be better with bromo and 200mg b-6. also with the test that high i would run nolve
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02-27-2005, 08:40 PM #16Junior Member
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I think it would be a good idea not to run the tren ...seems it would just add more the side effect profile than to any significant gains....I dont want to have to run bromo/b-6 etc. I will hold off...thanks for the input.
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02-27-2005, 08:40 PM #17Junior Member
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Originally Posted by gsxxr
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Originally Posted by gsxxr
Also, how about using arimidex too aside from the nolva to make sure?
Thanks
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02-28-2005, 12:15 AM #20Junior Member
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Originally Posted by warlock
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02-28-2005, 06:02 AM #21
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02-28-2005, 08:15 PM #22New Member
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Nolvadex will NOT help the gyno created by tren and deca . Nolvadex is for gyno created by excess estrogen, tren and deca create gyno from progesterone. As many, many people before me have said, it is not a good idea to use deca and tren together. Pick one or the other. Tren is so powerful you're not going to notice the deca, except maybe some bloat, which totally defeats the purpose of tren. Do tren or deca and mix it with test.
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02-28-2005, 08:34 PM #23Member
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You can certainly use deca and tren together. I do it frequently -- I am right now. the key is to make sure that you've got test incorporated into your cycle at higher levels than the deca/tren...if you're prone to progesterone gyno add some letro into the mix and you shoule be fine.....you also need to make sure that you do a thorough PCT at the end of the cycle.
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02-28-2005, 08:50 PM #24
The final word on fina, deca, and gyno.
Progesterone itself has no feminizing qualities. However, stimulating progesterone receptors (which the 19-nor steroids do) stimulates prolactin production. Prolactin is what causes 19-nor related gyno.
Get yourself some cabergoline or bromocryptine if you're really that concerned about it.. they are prolactin inhibitors.Last edited by Dude-Man; 02-28-2005 at 08:59 PM.
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