Deca + Tren together

Both deca and tren are 19-nors, and bind to the progesterone receptor...and this is why everyone says not to take the two drugs together, to avoid bad progesterone induced gyno.

But...I have never seen ONE person post that they ran the two together at the same time, and I have never seen ONE person, post they ran the two together, and got gyno from doing so.

Are people just regurgitating the same old, same old in regards to using these drugs together? I am thinking about using the two...is it too risky, or is everyone just too **** paranoid?

i have never done it, but i have seen a few post where guys have run them together without any problems.

I'm running them together now. **knock on wood** So far, no problems

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Originally Posted by Benches505

I'm running them together now. **knock on wood** So far, no problems

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What dosages?

I actually think there would be no problem running them together. You can use some nolva with them in case.

Good luck

are you going to add any test to the cycle. if you dont have test you are going to be shut down real hard. also i wold look out for gyno im not sure if b-6 only will help.

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Originally Posted by warlock

I actually think there would be no problem running them together. You can use some nolva with them in case.

Good luck

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nolve will not work for deca or tren gyno the only time you would wont to run that would be with pct.

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Originally Posted by Heavy

What dosages?

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Doing
150mg prop/ed
100 mg tren a/ed
4-500mg deca/ew

Almost into my 8th week

I am running test with it...I will use winny at a low dose, 25mg day as well, to see if that may block some progesterone effects...

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Originally Posted by Benches505

Doing
150mg prop/ed
100 mg tren a/ed
4-500mg deca/ew

Almost into my 8th week

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Nice cycle...when did the deca seem to kick in for you?

The joints felt the lube effect around week 3. That is how I tell when it's kicked in

ok so lay out your cycle for us

1,250mg test cyp
750mg deca
600mg EQ

If I add tren, it will be 100mg day, with 25mg winny to counter the progestenic effects...this is the 3rd week of my cycle...plan on running the test/deca/eq for another 10 weeks

i would not wont to run the winny that long. i think you would be better with bromo and 200mg b-6. also with the test that high i would run nolve

i dont see why you wont to run the deca. test eq tren is a mean cycle.

I think it would be a good idea not to run the tren...seems it would just add more the side effect profile than to any significant gains....I dont want to have to run bromo/b-6 etc. I will hold off...thanks for the input.

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Originally Posted by gsxxr

i dont see why you wont to run the deca. test eq tren is a mean cycle.

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True...but tren never really puts much mass on me, and this is a bulker.

if this is going to be for bulk there is no need for tren. i would stick to test deca and eq.

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Originally Posted by gsxxr

nolve will not work for deca or tren gyno the only time you would wont to run that would be with pct.

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could you elaborate on that please? If you take nolva, why would it not block the gyno?

Also, how about using arimidex too aside from the nolva to make sure?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by warlock

could you elaborate on that please? If you take nolva, why would it not block the gyno?

Also, how about using arimidex too aside from the nolva to make sure?

Thanks

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Nolvadex binds to the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue...nandrolone and tren, bind to progesterone receptors, not estrogen receptors.

i personally love stacking deca with tren and test. i get my best gains from that stack with d-bol also. i never had a gyno problem but always take my b-12 just incase.

Nolvadex will NOT help the gyno created by tren and deca. Nolvadex is for gyno created by excess estrogen, tren and deca create gyno from progesterone. As many, many people before me have said, it is not a good idea to use deca and tren together. Pick one or the other. Tren is so powerful you're not going to notice the deca, except maybe some bloat, which totally defeats the purpose of tren. Do tren or deca and mix it with test.

You can certainly use deca and tren together. I do it frequently -- I am right now. the key is to make sure that you've got test incorporated into your cycle at higher levels than the deca/tren...if you're prone to progesterone gyno add some letro into the mix and you shoule be fine.....you also need to make sure that you do a thorough PCT at the end of the cycle.

The final word on fina, deca, and gyno.



Progesterone itself has no feminizing qualities. However, stimulating progesterone receptors (which the 19-nor steroids do) stimulates prolactin production. Prolactin is what causes 19-nor related gyno.


Get yourself some cabergoline or bromocryptine if you're really that concerned about it.. they are prolactin inhibitors.