24M 1st cycle(what do u guys think)??

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 08:23 PM

Hey guys 24m in tampa looking for my 1st cycle advice. Ive rearched for years now and I am ready..Im seeking 10-15lbs of ripped lean muscle.
To me this is a Lifestyle and longterm im not trying to be a bodybuilder just have a great body. my cycle that i have listed is for me to gain lean muscle but lose body fat Id like to shred my stomach get my waist as small as possible as well as add what i call "steroid shoulders" and the snake veins in my arms on my biceps. I will be eating very clean at about 4000 cals per dayplenty of sleep as well as good training... heres my cycle.........

Deca /Cytomel /Clen

Wk1 60mcgs of Clen per day/ 200mgs Deca per week
Wk2 80clen/200deca
Wk3 100clen/300deca
Wk4 50cytomel/400deca
Wk5 50 cytomel/400deca
Wk6 100 cytomel/300decca
Wk7 100 cytomel/60Clen/200deca
Wk8 80clen/200deca
wk9 100 clen

I am estrogen sensitive should I add Novladex? How about Clomid at the end?
well I would aprecaite all feed back thanks for the time guys.......

**BodyMechanic** · 02-27-2005, 08:25 PM

i think you need to do more research.

**nathanw21** · 02-27-2005, 08:25 PM

you need some test with deca . it will shut you down hard and you wond be able to get hard. do a search. there is a lot of advise for 1st cycles

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 08:27 PM

So some sustanon250 at 250 per week????

**BodyMechanic** · 02-27-2005, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Epayso

So some sustanon250 at 250 per week????

for a first cycle you would be better off with a single ester test like enanthate or cyp or prop.

**nathanw21** · 02-27-2005, 08:30 PM

i would suggest test enanthate . sus needs to be shot eod not a good idea for a first cycle. i would do test e @ 500mg a week. 250mg 2x a week

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 08:33 PM

test E @ 500mgs would that be too much as far as side effects and why are there so many cycels with just deca why do i need or MUST have test in this cycle...also would i keep my same cycle that I wrote except add test?? and Novla as well as clomid???

**nathanw21** · 02-27-2005, 08:36 PM

not at all. if you are worried about gyno just take nolva @ 20mg everyday throughout cycle. bump you deca up to 400mg a week also. you can but the test and the deca in the same shot. there is a clen handbook on here that has a lot of good info on how to run clen take a look at that. clomid and nolva for pct.

**nathanw21** · 02-27-2005, 08:37 PM

oh yeah run the doses consistant throughout cycle it will mess with your blood levels if you dont.

**Hed** · 02-27-2005, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Epayso

test E @ 500mgs would that be too much as far as side effects and why are there so many cycels with just deca why do i need or MUST have test in this cycle...also would i keep my same cycle that I wrote except add test?? and Novla as well as clomid???

Just test will work fine man. Nolva at 10mg per day, get some clomid for pct, youll put on the muscle.

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 08:40 PM

guys 1st thanks for the convos..... ? what kind of results would i see of what u guys are suggesting as well as keeping the gains and im looking to be ripped like you know?

**nathanw21** · 02-27-2005, 08:43 PM

if your diet is in check like you said this will be a good cycle for you. you will get some bloat for the test and deca but it should not be that bad. there is no reason that you should not gain about 25lbs. with proper pct keeping most of them.

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 08:45 PM

hey nathan u really seem to know what u are talking about can u Im me or vice versa?

**BodyMechanic** · 02-27-2005, 08:47 PM

if you run test e at 500mg/ wk. with nolva at 10mg/day and your diet is in check, you should be able to get that 10-15 lean pounds you want.

**nathanw21** · 02-27-2005, 08:49 PM

you have a pm

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 08:49 PM

hey bodmech..... were u suggesting 500mgs along with 400of decca per week...???

**BodyMechanic** · 02-27-2005, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Epayso

hey bodmech..... were u suggesting 500mgs along with 400of decca per week...???

no i meant alone, but if you really want too, you could add the deca .

**wolfyEVH** · 02-27-2005, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Epayso

hey bodmech..... were u suggesting 500mgs along with 400of decca per week...???

save the deca .....you'll get what you are looking for with test only, granted your diet and training is in check

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 08:58 PM

so 500 mg of Test E per week 20 mgs of novla per day b/c I want to be carefull and how many weeks 500 straight for 8 weeks?

**nathanw21** · 02-27-2005, 08:59 PM

12 weeks is what i would do.

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 09:03 PM

12 weeks @500mgs straight...??? that seems kinda high why not the 10 weeks ....and guys my main concern is those side effects...??? what kind running that long 500 @12 weeks>>>??? also the clomid how long after my last shot and do i keep running novla the whole time what about adding some provirion...????

**Thegr8One** · 02-27-2005, 09:03 PM

Test Test Test

**Epayso** · 02-27-2005, 09:15 PM

question for you guys what would be wrong with just running my 1st cycle i posted why do i need test with decca every anabolic book ive read says i can run decca at the dosases i put and will acheciev hard looking not a bloated look..???