Test E / Cyp injects

**MonsterRugby** · 02-27-2005, 11:09 PM

Say one wanted to take 500mg of Test E or Cyp a week... Why wouldnt you shoot it all at once, for the full dose instead of 2 smaller dosages. Wouldnt the test levels be suffciently high for atleast 7 days until next inject? Plus you would get a ****load of test at once, and it would take twice as long to fall back down to normal levels... the question is.. what are hte pros and cons of doing injection of 500mg once a week compared to 250mg twice a week??

**cut260** · 02-27-2005, 11:16 PM

You are absolutely correct on shooting Test E all at once, however the cyp would be better ED or EOD. The reason is the half life of the ester. Test E has a 15 day half life and cyp has a 10 to 12 day half life so when looking at injection frequency that should be your determining factor. You could do a higher level of cyp but twice a week whereas you would want to do one injection of Test E per week. Your thinking was right on track but maybe needed just a few more pieces of the puzzle to complete the equation.

Just fyi here is a list of half lives.

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone , methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol )
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours

Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca -durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate ) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day

*Winstrol depot does not actually possess a classical half-life because it is un-esterified. Instead, the microcrystals dissolve slowly. Once they have all dissolved levels of the drug fall very rapidly. It is still an important consideration, and we have included it with a half-life of one day.

Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

Ancillaries Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours

**A_Pro** · 02-27-2005, 11:20 PM

Nice post cut260. Helped to answer something I was currently researching actually... like you read my mind.

**Glock-19** · 02-27-2005, 11:25 PM

Wow answered my question also. My next cycle is gonna be Test E based.

**cut260** · 02-27-2005, 11:25 PM

Cool. Next time you can work out one of my problems for me =)

All the best.

**Whitey** · 02-27-2005, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by cut260

You are absolutely correct on shooting Test E all at once, however the cyp would be better ED or EOD. The reason is the half life of the ester. Test E has a 15 day half life and cyp has a 10 to 12 day half life so when looking at injection frequency that should be your determining factor.

Just a typo, right?

**MonsterRugby** · 02-27-2005, 11:35 PM

Great, but to take it one step further.. what are the pros of shooting the Test E once a week @ 500 rather than shooting it at 250mg twice a week... All these talks of keeping levels stable etc... pros/cons?
My stats are 6'1'' 254 lbs... 11-13%BF
(Also to cut260: what are your thoughts on sust 250.. you like? how frequent would you inject and how many mgs a week in your opinion?)

**Stumbo** · 02-27-2005, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by cut260

Test E has a 15 day half life and cyp has a 10 to 12 day half life so when looking at injection frequency that should be your determining factor.

Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Enanthate 10.5 days
Cypionate 12 days

Hey bro, you kinda contradicted yourself there, enanthate has a half life of about 10 days. Did you mean decanoate by chance?

**Whitey** · 02-27-2005, 11:36 PM

I'm a little confused on this logic too, and I'm sure the 15 days was supposed to be 10.5

**YounG_SluG11** · 02-27-2005, 11:37 PM

Could you clarify this...

Originally Posted by cut260

You are absolutely correct on shooting Test E all at once, however the cyp would be better ED or EOD. The reason is the half life of the ester. Test E has a 15 day half life and cyp has a 10 to 12 day half life so when looking at injection frequency that should be your determining factor. You could do a higher level of cyp but twice a week whereas you would want to do one injection of Test E per week. Your thinking was right on track but maybe needed just a few more pieces of the puzzle to complete the equation.

**YounG_SluG11** · 02-27-2005, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Whitey

I'm a little confused on this logic too, and I'm sure the 15 days was supposed to be 10.5

Yep, I doubt they're typos though....

Where are you pulling this info from cut?

**YounG_SluG11** · 02-27-2005, 11:40 PM

Cyp would actually be better than enanthate for once a week injections. It's half-life is longer, not shorter.

**MonsterRugby** · 02-28-2005, 12:05 AM

bump cut260

LORDBLiTZ · 02-28-2005, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11

Cyp would actually be better than enanthate for once a week injections. It's half-life is longer, not shorter.

Correct

**Whitey** · 02-28-2005, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11

Yep, I doubt they're typos though....

Where are you pulling this info from cut?

He lists the correct ester half-lives later in the post - and he seems like he knows his basic sh!t, so I figured it was a typo.

I am definitely confused about how a longer ester needs to be shot more frequently than a shorter ester.