winny & joints

**RUballs0514** · 02-27-2005, 04:00 PM

i'm about to start my first test e cycle and winny is part of it. i've been readin and have heard a lot about people suffering from joint pain. what causes this and what should i do to prevent it.

thanks for all advice and info

**Consistency** · 02-27-2005, 04:16 PM

if your worried about joint pain... then load up on some Glucosamine, this helps lube the joints. I dont have joint pain from winny though.

**fitnessguy** · 02-27-2005, 04:17 PM

Glucosamine Chondroitin is great. Drink lots of water too...

**RUballs0514** · 02-27-2005, 04:21 PM

i'd still like to know what is causing the joint pain if possible.... thanks for the prevention advice though

**Blown_SC** · 02-27-2005, 05:41 PM

Winny dries your joints... therefore, they are lubricated less... causing discomfort that many people mention having...

**hoopcat528** · 02-28-2005, 01:34 PM

It seems like it is different for everyone, but I get really bad joint pain from winny. So bad I stopped and switched to anavar .

There is some research done that shows winny hurts "collagen synthesis" in the joints.

You might try a search on "collagen" but basically the research (if it is true) shows that enough winny can make a 20 year olds joints as fragile as a 50 year olds.

**RUballs0514** · 02-28-2005, 01:42 PM

i think i might run with the glucosamine. any objections or other advice?

**Swifto** · 02-28-2005, 01:50 PM

flax seed oil and omega 3 for joints is good

also eat suphur containing foods, garlic, onion and eggs

**nate3422** · 02-28-2005, 01:54 PM

glucoasamine should help

**RUballs0514** · 02-28-2005, 01:55 PM

thanks a ton, great info. i have read a little about the flax

**CARNIVORE** · 02-28-2005, 01:58 PM

Glucosamine/Chondroitin stack might help, make sure you start your stack 2-4 weeks out before you go on the winny.

**kaorialfred** · 02-28-2005, 02:28 PM

I tried winny and after the cycle was over with, I had some issuses,, so now I have deca . For what its worth the glucos was flowing heavily at my house but it didn't stop the snap crackle pop effect.

**Property of Steroid.com** · 03-01-2005, 10:54 AM

I've never seen any solid evidence that Winny is detrimental to joints. I recently rehabbed a Knee injury while on Winny/TestProp.

**RUballs0514** · 03-01-2005, 11:00 AM

do you think it just depends on the person?

**Property of Steroid.com** · 03-01-2005, 11:02 AM

Possibly. But I think that the "Winny degrades collagen fibers cross linking integrity" quote I always read (parroted from the "Animal Mass" thread by many people who have exactly nothing original to say, and simply repeat anything they read without checking references), has yet to be demonstrated.

**Teegunn** · 03-01-2005, 11:08 AM

You might want to try a Glucosamine, Chondriton, MSM combo like Triflex at GNC. I have used that and it worked very well. Much better than just Glucosamine alone. It is a little pricey though and it doesn't work overnight. In fact, I am going to pick some more up right now.

**timeismoney** · 03-01-2005, 11:10 AM

Cherry's are a natural anti-inflammatory. Add them to your diet, some elderly people I have worked with swear by them (eating hundreds a day) but even if it doesn't help you that much, its at least some good nutrition. Win win in my book.

**timeismoney** · 03-01-2005, 11:12 AM

Also, any healthy fats will help lubricate your joints. Flax seed, fish oil, omega 3, etc....

**Teegunn** · 03-01-2005, 11:43 AM

Yup - omega 3,6,9's and a Gluco/Chondrition/MSM formula will work great.

**thebrakes** · 03-01-2005, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by timeismoney

Cherry's are a natural anti-inflammatory. Add them to your diet, some elderly people I have worked with swear by them (eating hundreds a day) but even if it doesn't help you that much, its at least some good nutrition. Win win in my book.

not to mention cherries are low GI....(i've never heard of using them for joints)