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03-02-2005, 06:51 AM #1New Member
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Test & Deca? Or Test & Dbol? Which Is The Most Effective???
Guys, in YOUR opinion, which combo is the MOST effective for a 1st Cycle? My goal is size & strength.
1.) Test Enanthate @500-600mgs for 12 weeks
Deca @200-300mgs for 11 weeks
2.) Test Enanthate@500-600mgs for 12 weeks
Dbol @40mgs ED weeks 1-6
I'm thinking about using a low dose of Femara throughout to keep me dry. What do you think? Opinions please....
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03-02-2005, 07:06 AM #2
Mate for your first cycle its probably a good idea to go with Test on its own, otherwise if you get sides you wont know what is causing them. If you are set on stacking then I would go with the Test/Dbol cycle but I would reduce the Dbol to four or maybe five weeks max. Dbol is extrely hard on the liver. What have you got planned for PCT ?
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03-02-2005, 07:06 AM #3Junior Member
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1) You can up the deca dose to 400mg/week for 11 weeks. Extend the Test E to 13 weeks instead cos i believe that after deca is out from the system, your body will start to recover even with higher than normal test levels. This stack should have much less sides than the 2nd cycle.
2) Dbol at 40mg should give you quite a lot of gains, but 1/2 would be water weight and you should see lots of sides such as acne, nasty pumps which I mean in a negative way, and of course water retention. Also you won't be able to use this as long as the deca.
I'd go with the 1st cycle. I think part of the reason people get depressed and crash is also because of the loss of water retention, making you feel much smaller than you were before which wasn't lean muscle mass in the first place. My first couple cycles were quite strong and with dbols, and my body didn't handle it as good as less harsh compounds. I broke out so hard on sust deca dbols. Now I am running Test E and deca, starting out with prop and winny before those longer acting ones kick in and I am not breaking out with acne yet. I blame it on dbols. I am a dbol hater!
I am sure some others out there love the bloat that dbols give them cos it makes them feel like the biggest guy in the gym.....well, until they go off it!
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03-02-2005, 10:29 AM #4New Member
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Up for more opinions, please...
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03-02-2005, 10:44 AM #5Junior Member
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i can tell you are intent on stacking,so my answer to you is test+deca over dball any day.Iam not a big fan of gaining 30 pounds on a cycle and only keeping 15,wich is very common with dball+test.The only thing dball gave me was high blood pressure and a sore lower back(kidneys hurting).If you run the dbal then make sure you take your anti-toxins and drink an ass load of water.
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1-12 test 500mg week
1-5 d-bol 40mg day
1-12 nolv 10mg 20 mg with pct
ifyou get any side you can drop the d-bol to see it its from that or the test
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03-02-2005, 11:03 AM #7Originally Posted by Millineum Man
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03-02-2005, 11:04 AM #8
Listen to gsxxr, he has helped me alot
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03-02-2005, 11:19 AM #9
stats? it just not good to give recommendations without even knowing the basic facts...
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this is my 2 time going over this with him.
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03-02-2005, 11:29 AM #11New Member
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30 years old, 6'3" 225lbs and 8-9% bodyfat. 12 years of training off and on, the last 2 1/2 consistently. I have a choice between Femara & Arimidex to use during the cycle. Which one should I go with? I want to be ULTRA dry while gaining.
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Arimidex 1-12 then nolve clomid for pct
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03-02-2005, 11:30 AM #13New Member
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Thanks for your help!
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03-02-2005, 11:44 AM #14Originally Posted by gsxxr
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i am running teh arimidex and i love it
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