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    Finaly started cycle

    I finaly started my cycle today my guy took 4 ever.
    well this is how it goes.
    week 1 to 10 winstrol v 1cc every other day
    week 1 to 10 deca v 300 once a week
    week 1 to 5 anavar
    now my question is the test do i run it all the way through the 10 weeks or stop it before .Also wich test do I take test e or test cyp.??????????????I have both on hand so im stuck!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Last edited by firstinmia; 03-02-2005 at 10:58 PM.

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    well i'm still a newbie but i've always read that run test 1 or 2 weeks after you stop the deca .

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    test-cyp and E are pretty much the same
    10 week of winny is to much.
    try this:
    week 1 to 12 500mg test
    week 1 to 10 300mg deca
    week 7 to 12 winny 50mg/day
    shoot the test/deca twice a week: 250mg/150mg
    use 10mg nolva and 200mg b-6/day through cycle
    start pct 2 weeks after last test shot. (clomid and nolva)
    you can also toss in some milkthistle to help the liver while on winny

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    The thing is I took 2 shots today win and deca .ALso im taking the test cause they told me it was neccesary cause the deca will shuttttt me downnnnn.I was thinking 250 mg a week max?

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    My previous cycle the test really swelled me up (water) and thats wat I dont want .

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    well I would stop the winny and use it later. 10 weeks is way to much.
    unless you dont like your liver. test needs to be run higher than deca to
    avoid some of decas sides...like limp dick. also longer. if you use what I suggested
    you will not be disapointed. it is a very standard cycle. if you eat well and train hard you will grow. also, winny is more of a cutter and deca is a bulker. I would save the winny for another cycle. but that is just me

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstinmia
    My previous cycle the test really swelled me up (water) and thats wat I dont want .
    deca is much worse for bloat. nolva will help with that a bit
    you can use test prop. almost no bloat, for me anyway

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    Thanx the milkthistle how many times a day do i take it....I took 2 this afternoon...

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    How bout if I just ran winni - deca 5 weeks with the anavar ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstinmia
    Thanx the milkthistle how many times a day do i take it....I took 2 this afternoon...
    1000mg/day I split it twice a day but I dont know how important that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstinmia
    How bout if I just ran winni - deca 5 weeks with the anavar ?
    deca take 4 weeks give or take to kick in.
    2 orals in a cycle is a bad idea. why not use what I layed out for you????
    every one here will agree it is a good cycle

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    Thanx I aprreciate ur advice and by no meens im i trying to be a smart ass or nothing..I just did 6 weeks deca and test..I had deca left over so my buddy down at the gym told me to run it with winny to get some defenition....I said about adding test cause ive read that deca with out test will give u limp dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstinmia
    Thanx I aprreciate ur advice and by no meens im i trying to be a smart ass or nothing..I just did 6 weeks deca and test..I had deca left over so my buddy down at the gym told me to run it with winny to get some defenition....I said about adding test cause ive read that deca with out test will give u limp dick.
    well I would suggest you get a little more gear and try that cycle.
    it will be good. and like I said deca is not a cutter. you can save it for another day, wont go bad
    if you want a cutting cycle, do a search on a prop/winny cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dive_kid
    test-cyp and E are pretty much the same
    10 week of winny is to much.
    try this:
    week 1 to 12 500mg test
    week 1 to 10 300mg deca
    week 7 to 12 winny 50mg/day
    shoot the test/deca twice a week: 250mg/150mg
    use 10mg nolva and 200mg b-6/day through cycle
    start pct 2 weeks after last test shot. (clomid and nolva)
    you can also toss in some milkthistle to help the liver while on winny
    this is what i would have said 100%

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