Need Advice.

[Alxandrthegreat]

I am a rather serious athlete who is looking to do one cycle in the near future to gain size and strength. I dont want to go the rout of injectables and my buddy suggested D-Bol tabs. I was wondering if this was a good choice and what can i do to minimize side-effects.

[YounG_SluG11]

Not a good choice. There's really no way around the needle if you want to obtain and keep gains. A test only cycle would be a lot more effective, and a lot safer.

[Alxandrthegreat]

whats a test cycle

[seanw]

OK first off if you arnt prepared to inject you are really wasting your time. What are your stats and workout expereince ?. What does your diet look like ?. You need to do a lot of research before you start putting stuff in your body you know nothing about. This is not a flame just a statement of fact.

A test cycle is a cycle with Testosterone in it, there are a few different kinds. I would make sure my diet and workout routine was right before I would even consider steroids . I gaurantee you you can put on a lot more muscle without the use of steroids at this point.

[Alxandrthegreat]

Ok lemme put it this way, im 6'6'' 260 pounds, ive been lifting for 5 years, im looking to gain size and strength, what would be the ideal product or combination for me?

[seanw]

Whats you bf% ?

[Dude-Man]

how old are you.

[Alxandrthegreat]

bf% is 15%, and my workout routine is extremely good. Ill put it like this, i play top tier football, and work with some of the best trainers in the nation. and im 20 years old

[Dude-Man]

you're already giving yourself away... i think you're in high school. If you played top tier football, you would already know about all of this... and you would know that dianabol is detectable in the urine for up to two weeks and therefore not a good idea.

your profile says you're 22, and you say you're 20. I put you around 17.. but i could be wrong.

bf% is 15%, and my workout routine is extremely good. Ill put it like this, i play top tier football, and work with some of the best trainers in the nation

[Alxandrthegreat]

lol, naw im acctually 20, not 17i just didnt want to put my true birthdate on here cause if i got caught even looking at this id probabley be ****ed. Im being honest here, just looking for some advice

[seanw]

so which one is it, 20 or 17 ?

[Alxandrthegreat]

and another thing, i know all about detection time. Thing is im planning on taking it during summer, which is a dead period for testing, its illegal for them to test for my summer period. im 20.

[Dude-Man]

NCAA tests year round. It is not illegal for them to test during the summer.

http://www.drugfreesport.com/files/Y...gTestingQA.pdf

[Alxandrthegreat]

back to the orignal post, i need some suggestions for what to take.

[seanw]

Why dont you want to inject ?

[Alxandrthegreat]

yes, but there are easy enough ways to get around that. Wow you seem to know alot about this. And what is a source check. Look if its not mandatiory for me to be on campus during the summer, i.e. the workouts are "optional", i can get around the test eay enough. Ive actually seen it done once before

[Alxandrthegreat]

im not Nececarly against inejecting, at this point in time i am researching for this summer. i just want to weigh my options and find out what is more beneficial.

[seanw]

Ok well the most beneficial cycle for a first timer is this

wk 1-12 500mg/week Testosterone Cyp or Testosterone Ent

Followed by PCT which starts 18 days after your last Test injection.

If you really are 20 its not advisable to to a cycle at all until you are at least 23. And if you are 17 its an even worse idea.

[Dude-Man]

the detection times for enan/cyp are too long if he's going to run it in the summer.

[Glock-19]

Sounds like you dont need to be runnin juice at 20 years of age. You will regret it later in life. Your strength will come, I kept fillin out until age 23 but everybody is different. Let your talents take you to the top, if you try to cheatyour way to the top, it will catch up with you one way or the other.

[Alxandrthegreat]

Ya i heard what your sayin, but alot is going into this decision. Anyway in reply i was wondering what you thought about this?

1-8 150 mg test prop every other day
1-6 50 mg anavar or winistrol every day
1-8 10 mg nolvadex per day
9-12 20 mg nolvadex per day.

[Glock-19]

Winstrol can be detected for 5 months after use. Do some research on detection times for the different AAS. Use the search engine on this forum I found it to be real imformative.