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    Question 2nd cycle critique

    Gentlemen could you please take a look at my second cycle and let me know what you think

    Age: 25
    Weight: 215 (currently using cutting diet from cutting sticky to loose 15pds before start of this cycle)
    Height: 5' 11'’
    Previous cycle history: 1-12 TEST E 500MG'S (Gained about 18pds kept around 12pds)

    For my second cycle to start in mid-May I have two options and was wondering to get some input from you guys since you have been so helpful in the past!

    Option # 1:
    1-4 40mg's Dbol
    1-13 500mgs's Test E
    1-12 500mg's EQ
    1-12 400mg's Deca
    1-18 10mg's Nolva
    15-18 Clomd PCT
    12-20 ECA 2 weeks/ Clen 2 weeks

    Option # 2: (Just removed the Deca)
    1-4 40mg's Dbol
    1-13 500mgs's Test E
    1-12 500mg's EQ
    1-18 10mg's Nolva
    15-18 Clomd PCT
    12-20 ECA 2 weeks/ Clen 2 weeks

    I am looking to bulk up but in a lean way! I know that sounds very stupid but not looking to cut.

    ** I have done some research about HCG and from my last cycle I did not experience a major loose in sex drive and my YAM BAG didn’t get that small, I mean it did decrease but nothing major!

    I will be eating and working accordingly, I have done plenty of searches and just trying to finalize everything!

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.....

    Thanks is advance

    Peace…..

    Steaddyyyyy……..

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    if you are looking to stay lean then leave the deca out. as far as the clen in PCT, i personally don't like it, but a lot of people do, but you may want to check Hooker's clen studies to run it a different way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stea7jjdyEddie
    Gentlemen could you please take a look at my second cycle and let me know what you think

    Age: 25
    Weight: 215 (currently using cutting diet from cutting sticky to loose 15pds before start of this cycle)
    Height: 5' 11'’
    Previous cycle history: 1-12 TEST E 500MG'S (Gained about 18pds kept around 12pds)

    For my second cycle to start in mid-May I have two options and was wondering to get some input from you guys since you have been so helpful in the past!

    Option # 1:
    1-4 40mg's Dbol
    1-13 500mgs's Test E
    1-12 500mg's EQ
    1-12 400mg's Deca
    1-18 10mg's Nolva
    15-18 Clomd PCT
    12-20 ECA 2 weeks/ Clen 2 weeks

    Option # 2: (Just removed the Deca)
    1-4 40mg's Dbol
    1-13 500mgs's Test E
    1-12 500mg's EQ
    1-18 10mg's Nolva
    15-18 Clomd PCT
    12-20 ECA 2 weeks/ Clen 2 weeks

    I am looking to bulk up but in a lean way! I know that sounds very stupid but not looking to cut.

    ** I have done some research about HCG and from my last cycle I did not experience a major loose in sex drive and my YAM BAG didn’t get that small, I mean it did decrease but nothing major!

    I will be eating and working accordingly, I have done plenty of searches and just trying to finalize everything!

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.....

    Thanks is advance

    Peace…..

    Steaddyyyyy……..
    option 2 looks outstanding .... imo bump up the nolv during pct

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    BodyMechanic.....thanks for the reply!

    I was reading a little about hookers post on Clen and thinking of maybe running it the way he suggests.

    I just have to do some more research and get everything ready.

    Do you think I need to HCG ?

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    i wouldnt bother with hcg , maybe some trib.

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    You will be happy with # 2. I was a good boy and started out with test only as well. You will love the addition of EQ, the vascularity and the strength that lasts much longer after than test alone. My only suggestion would be do EQ for 15 weeks and test e for 16 but what you have is fine to. Maybe have the additional amount on hand and if you feel good at the end do a little extension.

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    Good use of the word "Yam Bag" for "testicles" in the original post...

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    Nice bro 2# is identical to what i will be running in 3 weeks time

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    Originally posted by hooker
    Good use of the word "Yam Bag" for "testicles" in the original post...




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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    Good use of the word "Yam Bag" for "testicles" in the original post...

    Yea the girls love that one when you tell em to suck on your YAM BAG

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    Quote Originally Posted by sp9
    You will be happy with # 2. I was a good boy and started out with test only as well. You will love the addition of EQ, the vascularity and the strength that lasts much longer after than test alone. My only suggestion would be do EQ for 15 weeks and test e for 16 but what you have is fine to. Maybe have the additional amount on hand and if you feel good at the end do a little extension.

    Did you run the cycle for 16 weeks? Did you need HCG afterwards?

    Let me know very curious b/c I have the extra gear I might go for the longer cycle....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stea7jjdyEddie
    Did you run the cycle for 16 weeks? Did you need HCG afterwards?

    Let me know very curious b/c I have the extra gear I might go for the longer cycle....
    Yes I ran for 16 weeks, never used HCG, or even had it on hand. I found that I recovered pretty quickly and also that running tribulus at around 1gram per day while on, and 3 grams during pct made a big difference in addition to using the normal comid and nolva for pct. For that long a cycle I did run Clomid at 100mg a day for 30days with 20mg nolva for those 30 days plus an additional 2 weeks after clomid stopped.

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    Thanks everyone for you input, I am going to adjust my Cycle and post again

    Peace.....

    Steaddyyy

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