Never done equipoise before and would like to know its half life and how often you need to inject it. What if i were to run equipoise and winstrol without test? opinions welcome.
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Never done equipoise before and would like to know its half life and how often you need to inject it. What if i were to run equipoise and winstrol without test? opinions welcome.
Eq has a long half-life so you could get away with injecting it once a week. However, twice a week if preferred. I personally go 250mg's every 4 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by ufcwarrior
I really don't like the idea of running eq and winny w/o test. You'll probably suffer some serious joint pains along with supressed test levels. I would at LEAST throw in 250mg/week of test. That way you not have problems with the little guy.
Test Is Best. no test, no cycle, period!
little guy has got to be runnin strong so better add prop. thanx mates
In week 15 of EQ/tren a/winny. No problems whatsoever.
If libido isn't a concern, then I wouldn't recommend the test if your goals are lean quality muscle, minimum sides, no need for ancillaries, etc...
I undersatnd alot of people have libido issues when not using test, but a lot of us don't. :)
I love the winny/EQ combo, it's a knock out cycle.
Take a glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM stack for the joints. GNC has the triflex combo that is expensive but works well.
Oh yeah, I run 2x250mg/wk EQ and 50mg winstrol ED
cool thanks for the info man
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Originally Posted by Iowa
Why ruin it with test? Bloat, more body hair, water retention, need for anti-e's, etc...
Test will supress you FAR worse than EQ/winny, and test has not been shown to improve joint pain.
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Originally Posted by spooledup
hows that going for you? good lean gains?
I am running a Tren Enantate 400mg pw/ test e 600mg pw / EQ 500mg pw / winny 50 mg pd. I am in week 5 & so far so good 14 lbs on great lean muscle gain / Bf went from 14% to 8%. The Test / tren combo add nice size & the winny / eq are making me hard as a rock plus very vascular. You really do not need to add the test but it does add some good quality size.
I agree with spooled. I did a winni only cycle and had awesome results, and no problems with the big guy downstairs. lol I lost tons of fat and replaced it with muscle. If its your first time then I would only recommend 250mgs of Eq a week. Eq is oil based and dosent hurt at all! You need to shoot it twice a week. I shot it with a 17g but I was new. You can get away with a 23g but when you pull the product from the jug you will notice alot of air bubbles in the plunger, make sure you wait till thier gone before injection. hope this helpsQuote:
Originally Posted by spooledup
No offense bro, but I think you are full of **** with your posts. You gain 2 inches on your arms from winny, you injected with 17 guage needles. :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Glock-19
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Originally Posted by spooledup
Test would make it better, not ruin it. Not everyone has increased body hair, bloat, water retention, and gyno from test bro. If he ran prop, then that would make a hell of a cycle. I don't get any of the above mentioned sides from it, so thats why I say what I do. I take it you have terrible sides from test? :unsure: Again, I don't, but everyone's different.
Read back into my first posts. I talk about how I used the 17 and it made my ass bleed but to me it diddnt feel different from a 23. Whether you think Im full of **** has nothin to do with this guys thread. Your provin that your a loser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lozgod
lol No shiet i just finished reading his post about 2 inches to arms in 6 weeks, and now 17g syringe???? Isn't that something that you shoot horses with??? Not sure about that but Shiet must be thiiiiiccckkkk to shoot... And also i would think EVERY cycle should be ended with PCT even if it's a EQ/Winnie cycleQuote:
Originally Posted by Lozgod
I went to the feedstore and asked for a needle to shoot oil based and water based into my dog. lol This is before I ever read on this forum or had ever done a cycle in my life. The dude gave me a 17 and a 23g. I had a jug of Eq and was gonna be gettin winstrol in a week. I couldnt pull the eq with the 23 so I had to use the 17. I was determined to try AAS and diddnt want to wait another day. The 17 dont hurt IMO, feels the same as the 23. And yes I ran some eq with the winstrol but only for 3 weeks because thats all i had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billmister
^ Well glad to know you're here to get knowledge, One rule I remember this forum always taught me was, NEVER start a cycle untill you have ALL your juice... INCLUDING PCT.
Yup, like I said it was my first cycle but my next will be well though out with a pct and test base. Cant wait to see what that does. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Billmister
Lookin' to add a few more inches to them arms I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glock-19
BTW, what time can we expect your pics tomorrow?
I dont have to work so Im sleepin in so I would say in the evening. Ill PM them to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11
post them in the thread, i would love to see results, I know winstrol is a good substance... Keep up the good work bro
Eq should be injected at least 2 times wk- and winny should be ed. ! Its must in my opinion to run it with test! As they all have said!
Heres a pic of my arms after a 6 week winni cycle and 3 weeks of eq. yes i know 3 weeks isnt enough eq but it was my first cycle and was all I could get my hands on at the time.
wtf diddnt work. gimme a few to figure it out
17g is what they use to draw blood...lol
do you guys think that you would keep more gains without the test. I want to go natural pretty soon.
what do i have to do zip the pic first? it uploaded for 5 minutes then the screen went white and said Unable to access page. wtf anybody that can help please pm me.
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Originally Posted by ufcwarrior
i want to go natural pretty soon? so you are not natural right now??? You will keep more gains WITH test. Also, please don't hijack other peoples threads...start your own next time
ive run 2 cycles both with test in them. just wanted some opinions of others about whinny and equipoise alone. thanks
You'll never see those pics :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11
I did an eq only cycle once and do not even count it as a cycle when I talk about my cycles. Probably better than a dbol only cycle, but I wouldn't know. You would be much happier with test in there, and drop the winny and add some tren/fina as long as you can control your temper. Run some test equal to the eq and throw in tren at 350mg per week. I would use the eq to cut the test prop and tren acetate. If you want less injects then go with test cyp or enanthate and tren e, and that is when you can inject the eq twice per week. If you lay out a proposed cycle it would be easier to critique.Quote:
Originally Posted by ufcwarrior
Heres what my arms look like after a winstrol only cycle.
Hey Poser, we all know that is not YOUR arm get out of here!
Can't understand why people are running cycles without test.
LOL Heres another pic i just took for you mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark956101957
Because some of us have tried it and think its garbage... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by redmeat
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Originally Posted by spooledup
OK. Do you mind if I ask what your stats are? :)
I agree test is a must!
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Originally Posted by spooledup
please explain on why test is garbage......
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Originally Posted by redmeat
Not trying to flame you at all. Just legitimately curious.
I'm wondering if there's anybody here over 250 with a reasonable bodyfat % who's NOT using test.
Again understand I'm NOT flaming anyone. Just curious how big these people are getting without test.