Thread: dbol question
03-12-2005, 03:02 PM #1
i know that dbol (5mg) gets active after about 3 hours or so, but wouldnt it be quite a waste if i take it during days when i dont workout ?..wont it be better just to use it days i workout, i take 25mg each day (4 weeks)
wont it be better if i like take two about 11am, and go to the gym at about 3pm, i mean wont i then be using more of its "powers" lol..
03-12-2005, 03:23 PM #2LORDBLiTZ Guest
03-12-2005, 03:32 PM #3Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ
03-12-2005, 03:41 PM #4
Do you other bros also spread it out like this- one pill at a time?
I take 10 mg with breakfast (8am), 10 at noon and 10 at dinner (6pm).
03-12-2005, 04:31 PM #5
Pharmaceutical Name: Methandrostenolone / methandienone
Chemical structure: 17 beta-hydroxy-17alpha-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3-one
Effective dose: 15-50 mg / day orally or 50-150 mg / week by injection
Average Street-price: $0.35 - 1.00 per 5 mg tab
Available Doses: 1,2, 5 and 10 mg tabs or 25 mg/ml in 50 ml vials
Brands & Products:
Ciba Dianabol (o.c.) (GB, G, US) 5 mg tabs
L.P Standard Labs. Co. Anabol Tablets (Thailand) 5 mg tabs
Leiras Anabolin (o.c.) (F) 5 mg tabs
Pharmacia Co. Dupnitza Bionabol (BG) 2 or 5 mg tabs
Polfa Metanabol (PL) 1 or 5 mg tabs
Leciva Stenolon (CZ) 1 or 5 mg tabs
Company Unknown Methandrostenolonum. (Russian D-bol) 5 mg tabs
Takeshima-Kodama Andoredan (Japan) 5 mg tabs
Major Dialone (o.c.) (US) 5 mg tabs
Sato Encephan (Japan) 5 mg tabs
Galenika / Gedeon Richter Nerobol (YU/HU) 5 mg tabs
Gedeon Richter Nerobol (BG) 5 mg tabs
P&B Labs. Private Ltd. Pronabol-5 (India) 5 mg tabs
Meca Veterinary Anabolikum. 2.5% (G) 25 mg/ml in 2 ml
Ttokkyo Labs Methandrostenolone 10 mg tabs
Quimper metandiabol 25 mg/ml in 2 ml
Company Unknown Trinergic (India) 5 mg caps
Naposim (R) 5 mg tabs
Dianabol was originally developed by John Ziegler and released by Ciba in 1956. It has had a long stint of popularity since then, especially in the US. Until the late 70's methandrostenolone was all the rave. Perhaps the most popular steroid ever. Known users include every Mr.Olympia from Scott to Zane. Of course the doses used have severely increased since then. Its popularity was also the cause of its demise. Almost a decade ago now the original D-bol was discontinued when the FDA drew the conclusion that its therapeutic uses were minimal compared to the amount of bodybuilders who were using it. But methandrostenolone has never been out of circulation really. Especially the Russians appeared quite fond of it and Russian D-bol is one of the best and most marketed forms of the substance methandrostenolone today.
Methandrostenolone is without a doubt one of the best, if not the best product for people who compete in non-aerobic oriented sports. It promotes drastic protein synthesis, enhances glycogenolysis (repletion of glycogen after exercise) and stimulates strength in a very direct and fast-acting way. It may be less useful to those competing in aerobic events as it also diminishes cell respiration1. But methandrostenolone manifests itself in a distinct manner : rapid and fast-acting build-up of strength and mass is noticed. That's why its often used at the beginning of cycle consisting of mostly injectables like long-acting testosterone esters and nandrolone . Since the effects of such drugs don't fully come out for the first 10-15 days, methandrostenolone is dosed in to provide immediate and visible results. It has a rather weak androgenic component and an obviously quite strong and visible anabolic component. Its effects are largely non-AR mediated, which is documented by its rather low influence on the natural endocrine system2 and the fact that it decreases rather than increases red blood cell content in the blood. Which means that one worry users of Dianabol, especially short term, needn't fear is the dramatic shutdown of natural testosterone production as is often the case with very androgenic compounds. Of course this effect is dose-dependent. It still has a mild androgenic component, meaning in high doses (30+ mg daily) androgen-mediated side-effects can be noted (acne, male pattern hair loss).
Because of its fast effects, immense popularity and the increasing "more-is-better" sentiment among bodybuilders, increasingly high doses are indeed being used and recommended. One has to wonder about the logic of such recommendations however, since high dose urine-analysis showed portions of unmetabolized compounds were being excreted3. In simpler terms that means that with higher doses, higher amounts of unchanged methandrostenolone were being excreted in the urine. This would indicate that the current stance needs to be reviewed and that smaller doses, taken multiple times per day would deliver better results and maximal use of the steroid. Dianabol simply is highly effective in low doses(25-40 mg ed). Som say Anadrol , a comparable steroid to methandrostenolone, is better, but its taken in doses of 50-150 mg. If one was to take methandrostenolone in those doses better gains could be expected. Methandrostenolone is also a lot safer in as opposed to the highly toxic and progestagenic anadrol. If one takes into account that the half-life of methandrostenolone in the body is only 3-6 hours, this theory makes even more sense. So taking your daily dose spread over 3 or 4 doses may elicit a better effect than only 1 or 2 doses. Methandrostenolone is quite effective in these lower doses by the way. Milligram for Milligram its more powerful than a testosterone ester, generally considered the best mass-builder.
A few notes there need to be made however. Not everyone should try and spread their doses out over multiple servings. First of all there is a slightly lower efficacy to take into account here as well due to two characteristics. The first being that you feed the total amount to the liver in smaller portions, yet the liver still manages to metabolize the same amount. Percentage wise that means less methandienone would make it through totally. The second would be that the peak levels aren't quite as high since no large doses are taken all at once. These two facts make it hard to recommend that just anyone take multiple doses. People who take moderate to low doses of ONLY methandrostenolone should probably opt for a single morning dose. This delivers a higher peak level and more survival of your only steroid. It also, due to the short half-life, makes the drug clear the body before the body produces its largest dose of natural testosterone, the early hours of sleep. Combined with the already mild effect at the AR, you could keep a good amount of your gains when using clomid or Nolvadex post-cycle. For those using it in conjunction with other, mostly injectable steroids , two doses seems to be the better choice, if you are taking in excess of 40 mg a day perhaps even three doses.
03-12-2005, 05:24 PM #6
great post bro, but i didnt understand the part about several doses, i take 5mg every 3 hours (5 times a day), would that mean that i would be better off with 2 doses only, or does that depend on my livers ability to do its work?..
03-12-2005, 05:38 PM #7LORDBLiTZ GuestOriginally Posted by farrebarre
03-12-2005, 05:39 PM #8Originally Posted by LORDBLiTZ
03-12-2005, 05:45 PM #9
30-35 mgs 3 times a day
03-12-2005, 05:46 PM #10
5 times is a little excessive, 3 times would be fine but you'd want to bump it to 30mg. 10mg 3x a day.
03-12-2005, 05:48 PM #11Originally Posted by 1-Cent
03-12-2005, 06:41 PM #12Originally Posted by farrebarre
03-12-2005, 07:20 PM #13Junior Member
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03-12-2005, 08:54 PM #14
i take mine 3-4 times a day. Yes you should take it ED not just when you workout.
03-13-2005, 05:12 AM #15Originally Posted by 1-Cent
03-13-2005, 05:24 AM #16
farrebarre, get the feeling that there really isn't one right answer? Some say five times is too much, others say that it is the only way.
Logically if the half life is three hours, you are doing the right thing, I just can't remember to do anything six times a day.
Three seems to work, but then I have never tried taking it five times a day.
03-13-2005, 05:38 AM #17
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