cycle critique

**blackblaze** · 03-14-2005, 03:22 PM

Im planning my second cycle and id like you guys to look at it. Stats- 5-6, 235 (anticipated at start) 13% bf. 22 years old.

1-15 sust 250 eod
1-15 test e 500mg/week
1-13 deca 400mg/week
1-13 eq 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 50mg/ed
9-15 50mg winny/ed
1-21 20mg nolvadex
1-21 .25mg l-dex
1-21 200mg b-6
1-15 milk thistle
17-21 100mg clomid

***G-1000*** · 03-14-2005, 03:28 PM

i dont see the need for the sust

nolv 1-15 10mg 15-pct 20mg

looks good

**juiceinthehood** · 03-14-2005, 03:31 PM

thats alot of test it needs work imo.

**blackblaze** · 03-14-2005, 03:36 PM

yeah, im not a huge fan of sust, i just assume cut it out, but i got it for free cause my buddy didnt want to get caught with it. I thought this would be a rather good bulking cycle, id like to get a solid 20 lbs out of it

**juiceinthehood** · 03-14-2005, 03:40 PM

what u gain will rely on diet what you keep will rely on pct
u can gain 20lbs+ on test e alone if u eat alot bro
what r your goals

**blackblaze** · 03-14-2005, 03:48 PM

i have i really good diet i think. i make sure i get 350gs of protein everday, and drink atleast 2 gallons of water. i though i was eating about 7000calorios a day, but on paper its only about 4500. (note to newbies, dont estimate). I eat like a horse, ends about being about 700-800 calories a 6 times a day. I get plenty of rest (although test makes me a restless) I work out 6 days a week. i can post my workout if you like. Right now im running a test/deca cycle and im at week 6, im extremely happy with everything. I dont really care about bf. Im very happy with 13%, id just like to bulk up a lot. My 3 year goal is to hit 270 at 13%. At this point i think i have grasped the concept of "food=gains" and proper rest, along with hard work in the gym.

**juiceinthehood** · 03-14-2005, 03:58 PM

try this
1-4 dbol 40mg ed
1-14 test e 750mg
1-13 deca 600mg
i know this is what your doing now but if your happy with then just up the doses for your next one

**blackblaze** · 03-14-2005, 03:59 PM

alright, thanks for the advice.....any other opinions ?

**blackblaze** · 03-14-2005, 05:41 PM

bump

**bigswolej** · 03-14-2005, 05:54 PM

black blaze can you post your workout, thanks bro,

**blackblaze** · 03-14-2005, 06:02 PM

monday: chest and tris (super heavy) , tuesday: back and bi's (heavy), wednesday: shoulders and legs (only squats) , thursday: chest and tris (all sets of 10 reps), friday back and bi's (all sets of 15 reps), saturday: shoulders. I shoot for 15 sets per part, and push myself as hard as possible. An example for benching on monday would be: 335x8, 345x6, 355x4, 365x3, 375x1 then cables flys at different angles, and incline dumbells. On thursday's i'll ive been going 315x10, 315x10, 315x10, 305x10,275x10

**Consistency** · 03-14-2005, 06:10 PM

I think thats too much test for a 2nd cycle, its 1,375mg. If you got the sust for free then just run it, and drop the enan, you will still be getting 875mg of test a week (still think its too high). Run the winny from week 13-18, then start pct 3 weeks after last sust shot (1 day after last winny)

**blackblaze** · 03-14-2005, 06:15 PM

alright, that makes sense, thanks for my input...thats probably what i will do...im just gettin stuff ready now, im about 4 months out

**Consistency** · 03-14-2005, 06:19 PM

also I would run HCG starting week 7 at 500iu's E4D, stopping 1 week before PCT.

**saluu** · 03-14-2005, 06:20 PM

hey it's salu aka roid monkey in da house why dont you throw in a couple more compounds in that cycle make it 20 injectables in one cycle and then look like that guy in the video. seriously though test e alone will give you 20 pds easy . you dont need so many roids in one cycle. make it two cycles .

**justin2305** · 03-14-2005, 07:03 PM

i would drop the super and maybe if u wanted to add 250mgs to the 500mgs of test e so thats 750mgs of test/wk and everything else looks good to me but yes unless ur prone to gyno i would just run the nolva at 10mgs ED until pct then jump it to 20mgs