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    Oxandrolone vs Winstrol

    I was going to purchase Winstrol from a reputable source, but they recommend that Oxandrolone is better. Since Oxandrolone costs almost twice as much I would like to know if it is worth it.

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    If it won't break the bank var is definitly a preferable choice over winny. I personally like both but do tend to have joint and hair problems from winny. LOL. If it's possible use var @ 1mg/kg of body weight. The strength gains will be very good.
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    I like var

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    var would def be your best choice if you have the money

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    Looks like Var Wins this one folks.....winni is good too.

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    Wow, hair issues? Do you mean growing in weird places or falling out of normal ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephist0
    Wow, hair issues? Do you mean growing in weird places or falling out of normal ones?
    Fallin out.......

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    That blows, after your cycle does it grow back?

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    havent run var yet but have seen the results on buddies and its good stuff, i personally hate winny and will never run it agian due to drying the hell outta my joints.

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    My hair never grew back. I don't outright blame winny as I am pre-dispossed to have a thinning hair line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrower74
    My hair never grew back. I don't outright blame winny as I am pre-dispossed to have a thinning hair line
    winny made my hair fall out and im only 21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    winny made my hair fall out and im only 21
    Dam so much for your sex life....lol jk Im losin a little too, I know it sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock-19
    Dam so much for your sex life....lol jk Im losin a little too, I know it sucks.
    thats why i shave my head

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    HAIRLOSS is the main reason I have never tried winny or masteron even though I want to soooo bad. I will be using var for my next cutter pretty soon.

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    Var is worth the extra cash.

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    I love var (75mg ED is magic for me) - too scared to do winny due to hair issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mephist0
    I was going to purchase Winstrol from a reputable source, but they recommend that Oxandrolone is better. Since Oxandrolone costs almost twice as much I would like to know if it is worth it.
    hmmm....a source requesting you to buy more expensive gear.......

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    stick to var

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    stick to var
    people respond to different things....he should run both, and see how they each affect him....

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    depends...I think winstrol is just not worth all the sides...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    depends...I think winstrol is just not worth all the sides...
    and i think var is good for nothing but making your wallet shrink.....but thats a decision for him to make

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    Winstrol is good...it's not pretty, in terms of elevating your liver enzymes and doing damage to your lipid profile...it'll cut you up though. Winstrol and prop is probably the cheapest cutting cycle around.

    Anavar is a better drug, but more costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooker
    Winstrol is good...it's not pretty, in terms of elevating your liver enzymes and doing damage to your lipid profile...it'll cut you up though. Winstrol and prop is probably the cheapest cutting cycle around.

    Anavar is a better drug, but more costly.
    good post as usual hooker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrower74
    If it won't break the bank var is definitly a preferable choice over winny. I personally like both but do tend to have joint and hair problems from winny. LOL. If it's possible use var @ 1mg/kg of body weight. The strength gains will be very good.
    1mg/kg?? That would be 90mgs per day for a 200lb guy. Sounds a bit high. I've heard such a wide range of var dosages though, I don't know what to think. I guess its trial and error to figure out what works best for oneself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JdJuicer
    1mg/kg?? That would be 90mgs per day for a 200lb guy. Sounds a bit high. I've heard such a wide range of var dosages though, I don't know what to think. I guess its trial and error to figure out what works best for oneself.
    That is definitly at the high end. But how often do we see people go 100mg/day + with drols? I think the main reason Var has not been used in dosages that high is mainly b/c of cost. 40mg/day I think should be the minimum effective dose for most and 1mg/kg of body weight would be the high end.

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    I do about 50mgs/day of Winny (with test of course). I've been on it for...umm...I don't even want to give anyone any unsafe ideas ("hooker does it, blah blah blah...")...but I've been on Winny/Prop for a long time with no problems.

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    var is great for strength winni is not
    winni will harden and define existing gains
    var will give lean gains and big strength

    i know ppl. than gain nicely off a cycle of var
    i like what winni has done for me in terms of defining my existing gains
    var has given me brute strength in the past
    if your looking for definition and hard muscles then go with winni
    if you want major strength increase and some lean gains then go with var
    run winni last 6-8 weeks of cycle @ 50-60mg ed
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    run var at atleast 50mg ed for 8-10 wks
    a var cycle will cost alot, winni is alot cheaper
    good luck bro

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    In my opinion Var is worth the extra money if you don't want to loose your hair. I was already loosing mine before I even started AAS so I just went with winny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrower74
    That is definitly at the high end. But how often do we see people go 100mg/day + with drols? I think the main reason Var has not been used in dosages that high is mainly b/c of cost. 40mg/day I think should be the minimum effective dose for most and 1mg/kg of body weight would be the high end.

    Now for most any dosages you only consider Lean Body Mass (lbm)

    I assume it would be the same in this case.
    A 250 lb Bodybuilder wouldnt take the same var dose as a 250lb obese adult.

    Just to clarify to help some bros out w/ dosing.

    To find your LBM take your % bf x your body weight. Subtract that number from your total body weight and you have your LBM

    200lbs @ 17%BF has 166lbs of LBM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrower74
    That is definitly at the high end. But how often do we see people go 100mg/day + with drols? I think the main reason Var has not been used in dosages that high is mainly b/c of cost. 40mg/day I think should be the minimum effective dose for most and 1mg/kg of body weight would be the high end.
    have to take out a loan to run 100mged/8weeks

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    have to take out a loan to run 100mged/8weeks
    not if you get Var powder - 100mged/8weeks will cost around $75 (including caps etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Earl
    not if you get Var powder - 100mged/8weeks will cost around $75 (including caps etc)
    true true....powder is alot cheaper route for all gear....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Earl
    not if you get Var powder - 100mged/8weeks will cost around $75 (including caps etc)
    read the ****ing rules...dont post prices on powder again - bathgate

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    Quote Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
    have to take out a loan to run 100mged/8weeks
    Powder is the only way I could afford to take var at that kind of dose. Tabs would be out of my budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mealticket
    Now for most any dosages you only consider Lean Body Mass (lbm)

    I assume it would be the same in this case.
    A 250 lb Bodybuilder wouldnt take the same var dose as a 250lb obese adult.

    Just to clarify to help some bros out w/ dosing.

    To find your LBM take your % bf x your body weight. Subtract that number from your total body weight and you have your LBM

    200lbs @ 17%BF has 166lbs of LBM
    Thanks for catching that Mealticket. Definitly use lean body mass to calculate dosages.

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