first cycle question

[bradd5150]

hey bros, just started first cycle as follows:
week 1-4 10mg M1t/400mg 4derm ED
week 1-12 400mg/wk test cyp split into 2 shots a week

my question is can i drop the 4derm early or should i run it all 4 weeks with the M1t. someone over in the supplement forum said that there was no point in running the 4derm after the first week with test. thanks.

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[longhorn814]

no reason to take 4derm. 4derm mildy converts to test, but since youre taking test, there's no reason to take. Make sure you take some supps for your liver, M1T is very harsh on it

[bradd5150]

thanks bro. yeah, i know all about m1t. did two cycles of it before. got some milk thistle and hawthorne berry extract. makes sense not to use it but i figured i would for the first week or two anyways. just dont want any lethargy which i know you can get with the m1t without 4derm.

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