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    CrispyHaole is offline Associate Member
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    Laugh @ my 1st cycle, help with my 2nd

    Ya know how when u 1st get into AAS some of us just listen to our "trusted and experienced" friends on what to take? Well my sorry excuse for a 1st cycle was:

    wks 1-8 250mg of Omnadren
    wks 1-10 300mg of Deca
    no PCT whatsoever



    Okay, when you're done laughing I'll have you know I did make some gains on this (although they probably had more to do with my strict diet and consistency than anything else). Besides, this gear I got was probably distilled horse urine (least I hope it was distilled) anyway. Thankfully I have yet to display any side effects. After carefull consideration (and a more reliable supplier) I've decided to 1st drop some bodyfat until I can see my abs again (I'm not that far off) and then in about 3 mos. try a real cycle. This is what I'm considering (basicaly a noob cycle from steroid .com):

    wks 1-10 500mg Test E
    wks 1-10 300mg Deca
    wks 1-4 40mg D-Bol ED

    wks 1-15 Nolva 10mg ED
    wks 1-15 B-6 200mg ED
    wks 13-15 Clomid

    Yes this is exactly novice cycle 1-3 with the exception of 40 rather than 30 of D-bol. I'm 28 yrs old, 6'1", currently 220lbs but will probably be around 200-205 when I start this. Should I go with something like this or just stick to plain ole test? If the latter, any suggestions? Just Test E @ 500 for 10 wks? Thanks in advance for your help.

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    I would take 500mg test wks 1-12 and 400mg deca wks 1-10. clomid phase should be a week longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    I would take 500mg test wks 1-12 and 400mg deca wks 1-10. clomid phase should be a week longer.
    Like XXX says. This is spot on. !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrispyHaole
    wks 1-10 500mg Test E
    wks 1-10 300mg Deca
    wks 1-4 40mg D-Bol ED

    wks 1-15 Nolva 10mg ED
    wks 1-15 B-6 200mg ED
    wks 13-15 Clomid

    Yes this is exactly novice cycle 1-3 with the exception of 40 rather than 30 of D-bol. I'm 28 yrs old, 6'1", currently 220lbs but will probably be around 200-205 when I start this. Should I go with something like this or just stick to plain ole test? If the latter, any suggestions? Just Test E @ 500 for 10 wks? Thanks in advance for your help.
    Run the test 1-11.
    Deca could be increased to 400mg/wk.

    Running deca in that cycle is of personal choice. Running with or without it isn't right or wrong.

    IMO, I would run the cycle with it.

    D

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    Okay how about this revised cycle:

    wks 1-12 500mg Test E
    wks 1-10 400mg EQ
    wks 1-4 40mg D-Bol ED

    wks 1-18 Nolva 10mg ED
    wks 1-18 B-6 200mg ED
    wks 15-18 Clomid

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrispyHaole
    Okay how about this revised cycle:

    wks 1-12 500mg Test E
    wks 1-10 400mg EQ
    wks 1-4 40mg D-Bol ED

    wks 1-18 Nolva 10mg ED
    wks 1-18 B-6 200mg ED
    wks 15-18 Clomid
    Now your running EQ?

    Personally I like EQ much better than Deca .

    Either way, pct should start two weeks after your last test shot and three weeks after EQ or Deca.

    Soooo, cut the test back a week or extend the EQ one week and your good.

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    From what Ive read I like EQ better too but i get deca @ 300 and EQ @ 200 from my supplier and when xxx suggested bumping Deca to 400 I decided to replace it with EQ anyway. Would a longer cycle be alright?

    wks 1-15 500mg Test E
    wks 1-14 400mg EQ
    wks 1-4 40mg D-Bol ED

    wks 1-20 Nolva 10mg ED
    wks 1-20 B-6 200mg ED
    wks 17-20 Clomid

    Or is this pushing it for a 1st(proper anyway) cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrispyHaole
    From what Ive read I like EQ better too but i get deca @ 300 and EQ @ 200 from my supplier and when xxx suggested bumping Deca to 400 I decided to replace it with EQ anyway. Would a longer cycle be alright?

    wks 1-15 500mg Test E
    wks 1-14 400mg EQ
    wks 1-4 40mg D-Bol ED

    wks 1-20 Nolva 10mg ED
    wks 1-20 B-6 200mg ED
    wks 17-20 Clomid

    Or is this pushing it for a 1st(proper anyway) cycle.
    Much better cycle, and I think U will be a lot happier with EQ vs. Deca. I will never touch Deca again!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buylongterm
    Much better cycle, and I think U will be a lot happier with EQ vs. Deca. I will never touch Deca again!!!!
    I definitly feel the same. EQ will give you a lot better quality muscle and not all the water wait either.

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