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    would i see a gain from this?

    what kind of gain could i expect from taking just deca and winny tabs? my focus is only on gaining strength and retaining it as much as possible after i come off. i dont care much about size or weight gain just want to get stronger. thanks in advance.
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    im 5'11" 190lbs. been powerlifting for a year (but worked out b4 that)

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    You can expect libido problems if you run that cycle. You will gain yes, but why take the chance of not being able to get an erection during/or even long after the cycle. Look into Testosterone Enanthate or Cypionate . You can run either of these alone, or base it with the deca and winny. Whatever you do I highly advise that you add testosterone .

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    amen to test

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    i thought not taking a test would save my nutz. haha
    im 18 yrs old so i didnt know if i should take a test but ill look into it

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    Your going to be told to take nothing that young. It is good advice, however if you must start run Test E only at 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks followed by PCT.

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    yeh everyone is telling me that, i wanna do it for football

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve
    i thought not taking a test would save my nutz. haha
    im 18 yrs old so i didnt know if i should take a test but ill look into it
    Taking many types of steroids , especially deca , will shut your nuts down. Including test in your cycle acts as a new test source since your natural test will likely be shut down. No test = no nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve
    i thought not taking a test would save my nutz. haha
    im 18 yrs old so i didnt know if i should take a test but ill look into it
    18? Hmm, you might wanna wait a few more years before you hit the sauce bro. I started at about your age and I regret it more than anything.

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    what would a good cylce be for me? my main concern is getting stronger and keeping as much as possible. i dont really care about gaining weight

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    yeh im probably gonna end up holding off, its a bitch trying to keep up with my teammates that are on it tho.

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    too young bro, no offense. you still got plenny of time to bulk up naturally. don't rush this kind of thing. wait some years and do a lot of research. you've got plenny to learn. def test before any other kind of cycle though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve
    yeh im probably gonna end up holding off, its a bitch trying to keep up with my teammates that are on it tho.

    The best option is never the easyest IME. Wait a few years till none of them can get wood and have other probs then watch them try and keep up with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number twelve
    what would a good cylce be for me? my main concern is getting stronger and keeping as much as possible. i dont really care about gaining weight
    Anavar is about the only steroid I would recommend for someone your age. Mainly because it's very safe and it has been said that it doesn't close growth plates. Suites all of you goals as well.

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    i should wait till im like 25?

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    21-22 should be fine

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    aiight thanks for all the help

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