First Cycle -

**IPStack** · 03-23-2005, 11:11 AM

Well guys I think I am finally ready.. I wanted to wait till I got my fat ass in better shape before I began any cycle, so heres what I got:

Started out at 287, now I am at 252 after 6 weeks of diet and cardio.

I am not new to the gym, so hitting the weight, proper workout isn't an issue (really!)

I am 32, 252.

I have been given this cycle, I need your help to make sure this is right.

I have:
50 25mg D-Bol Tabs
120 2.5mg (or 25mg) cant read my own writing Stenox
30 20mg Proviron
30 50mg Clomid
10cc 200mg Equipoise
4cc 100mg Decadurabolin

Schedule suggested:

D-Bol daily for 25 days
Stenox Daily (2a and 2p) for 30 days
Proviron Daily for 30 days
2cc equipoise wk for 5 weeks
1cc Deca a week for 4 weeks

Then PCT Clomid 3 a day (for a total of 150mg) for 10 days

Guys, I would GREATLY appreciate your assistance on this!

**SwoleCat** · 03-23-2005, 11:13 AM

If you are cutting why the d-bol and deca ?

Just curious.......

The Stenox is also 2.5, not 25.

~SC~

**IPStack** · 03-23-2005, 11:16 AM

I am not cutting, as this is my first cycle, I am more concerned with size right now. Cutting I will try and do naturally by continuing my diet, cardio. Got ya on the Stenox at 2.5 and not 25.
What do you think of this cycle.... I got this from a friend (of course) and it all looks legit, I have researched pics etc of each several times on the net and it matches all the legit stuff, plus he uses them and it seems good to him...so..

**SwoleCat** · 03-23-2005, 11:19 AM

Honestly, your friend should have told you that TEST is the BASE for ANY cycle.

Even more important w/Deca .

You have no test.

No good.

~SC~

**Diesel** · 03-23-2005, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by IPStack

Schedule suggested:

D-Bol daily for 25 days
Stenox Daily (2a and 2p) for 30 days
Proviron Daily for 30 days
2cc equipoise wk for 5 weeks
1cc Deca a week for 4 weeks

Then PCT Clomid 3 a day (for a total of 150mg) for 10 days

Guys, I would GREATLY appreciate your assistance on this!

Umm...where to start?

1) Testosterone should be a paert of every cycle.

2) 5 weeks of EQ/4 weeks of deca is a complete waste. Just as they are starting to kick in, you are stopping. They should be run at least ten weeks and I would not suggest them run together in the doseages you have outlined.

3) Halo at 10mg/ed. Not worth it.

My suggestion:

Do tons of research here. This way you will get a better picture of what you want to do and why.

**SwoleCat** · 03-23-2005, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Diesel

Umm...where to start?

1) Testosterone should be a paert of every cycle.

2) 5 weeks of EQ/4 weeks of deca is a complete waste. Just as they are starting to kick in, you are stopping. They should be run at least ten weeks and I would not suggest them run together in the doseages you have outlined.

3) Halo at 10mg/ed. Not worth it.

My suggestion:

Do tons of research here. This way you will get a better picture of what you want to do and why.

Ditto!

~SC~

**Diesel** · 03-23-2005, 11:21 AM

BTW, welcome to the board.

**IPStack** · 03-23-2005, 11:24 AM

I can get Testosterone Cypionate . What would you suggest being a good starter cycle?
How much and when.
Sorry to start with such dumb ass questions, but trying to do this right, with your help of course.

**Diesel** · 03-23-2005, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by IPStack

I can get Testosterone Cypionate . What would you suggest being a good starter cycle?
How much and when.
Sorry to start with such dumb ass questions, but trying to do this right, with your help of course.

The dumbest question is one that is not asked.

Test Cyp is good. You could run it at about 500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks and see how your body reacts.

Before you start anything, read up on PCT (Post Cycle Therapy ) and Anti Estrogen treatments.

You need to know as much info as possible before taking the plunge bro.

**hung-solo** · 03-23-2005, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Diesel

The dumbest question is one that is not asked.

Test Cyp is good. You could run it at about 500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks and see how your body reacts.

Before you start anything, read up on PCT (Post Cycle Therapy ) and Anti Estrogen treatments.

You need to know as much info as possible before taking the plunge bro.

yeah you will get the most oout of every cycle if you are knowledgable with what you take and how you take it.. it tooke me about 5-6 months of research before i even did my first cycle. i am glad that i did. it paid off!! also check the diet and workout forum and see if your plans there are up to par.. so take your time with this stuff you will be glad that you did.

**IPStack** · 03-23-2005, 11:31 AM

Ok, I will certainly research PCT and Anti - Estrogen...So I should start with just Test for 500mg a week for 10 - 12 weeks and see how that goes. I was planning Clomid for PCT, and a Multi Vit.

**IPStack** · 03-23-2005, 11:34 AM

What does this mean exactly:
200mg/ml, 10ml bottle
@ 500 mg a week, 20 bottles or so, that right?

**hung-solo** · 03-23-2005, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by IPStack

Ok, I will certainly research PCT and Anti - Estrogen...So I should start with just Test for 500mg a week for 10 - 12 weeks and see how that goes. I was planning Clomid for PCT, and a Multi Vit.

yeah go for 12weeks make sure its test e or cyp. deff research the anit est. they will save your ass from becoming a bitch hahaha.. also deff clomid for pct also.. oh and the multi vitamins-- you should take those every day no matter on cycle or not.. before you start this, research the above and make sure your diet is in check or you will waste this big time! goodluck

**SwoleCat** · 03-23-2005, 11:36 AM

That means 2000 mgs total in that bottle. @ 500 per week, that bottle will last one month.

20 bottles would last 20 months.

~SC~

**hung-solo** · 03-23-2005, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by IPStack

What does this mean exactly:
200mg/ml, 10ml bottle
@ 500 mg a week, 20 bottles or so, that right?

its simple--

1 botte of it, which has 10ml in it= 200mg per ml... which is 10 shots of 200mg of whatever it is,... see the research will be handy bro

**hung-solo** · 03-23-2005, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

That means 2000 mgs total in that bottle. @ 500 per week, that bottle will last one month.

20 bottles would last 20 months.

~SC~

or you can look at it like that.. a deff more intelligent approach!

**devilman208** · 03-23-2005, 11:39 AM

Id try the test only first and see how your body reacts then throw some other stuff in there on the next cycle. Good luck bro!

**IPStack** · 04-06-2005, 01:23 PM

So can we all agree, that I should do one cycle (10-12 weeks) with just Test and see how that goes. I will alos add in the multi-vitamin. What would be best to use during the cycle to counter effects and best to use Post Cycle?

Thanks fellas./....

***G-1000*** · 04-06-2005, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by IPStack

So can we all agree, that I should do one cycle (10-12 weeks) with just Test and see how that goes. I will alos add in the multi-vitamin. What would be best to use during the cycle to counter effects and best to use Post Cycle?

Thanks fellas./....

yes your best bet is a test only cycle for the first one

**IPStack** · 04-27-2005, 06:21 AM

Guys, out of this list, is there an alternative to Test that I can use out of what I have. I can't seem to get my hans on any test.

I have:
50 25mg D-Bol Tabs
120 2.5mg (or 25mg) cant read my own writing Stenox
30 20mg Proviron
30 50mg Clomid
10cc 200mg Equipoise
4cc 100mg Decadurabolin

Can I use any of this for a first cycle for 12 weeks???