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    Gaining size while trying to cut/harden up??

    I was curious to know you guys opinion. If I were to run Prop - EQ - Winny for the summer do you think there will be any size gain? Im not talking about the kind of size you would get while bulking, i mean a little extra meat. I know there will not be that large amounts of water retention so the weight might virtually stay the same (sort of) on this cycle?

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    You could look to gain a few lbs. of LBM, but if you are seriously cutting and watching your diet and doing cardio 4-5 times a week, then your bf will definitely go down and you will gain some LBM but your weight won't jump 20lbs either.

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    I'd say 5-10 pounds of LBM are possible.. just dont go too low on the calories on the diet.

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    i dont kno why you would just add like 400mg/wk eth and train on a ECA stack. it would keep you lean, and help you grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    You could look to gain a few lbs. of LBM, but if you are seriously cutting and watching your diet and doing cardio 4-5 times a week, then your bf will definitely go down and you will gain some LBM but your weight won't jump 20lbs either.
    Kind of what I think too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    I'd say 5-10 pounds of LBM are possible.. just dont go too low on the calories on the diet.
    Nah, wont be going to low on the calories anyway. I've already gotten to 10% bf during this off cycle. My summer diet will consist of some carbs for sure.

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    If you were worried about hair loss what would you sub for the Winstrol ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slippin
    If you were worried about hair loss what would you sub for the Winstrol?
    Anavar for sure if you could get a hold of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetPumped
    Anavar for sure if you could get a hold of it.
    Does QV have a form of Anavar ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slippin
    Does QV have a form of Anavar?
    yes, its oxavet. Be sure its oxAvet and not oxIvet, thats drol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iowa
    yes, its oxavet. Be sure its oxAvet and not oxIvet, thats drol.
    Ok I know I can research this but since you guys are here i will ask you.

    Is Oxavet crystallized like Winstrol ? water based? Same results? Also, winny's half life is like 9 hours. What about Oxavet?

    Thanks for the help!

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    Anavar (Oxavet) is an oral steroid ... comes in pill form. The half life is around 9 hours so taking it twice daily is better for blood levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    Anavar (Oxavet) is an oral steroid... comes in pill form. The half life is around 9 hours so taking it twice daily is better for blood levels.
    Gotcha thank you for clearing that up. I guess now its the decision I have to make Winny or Anavar . Im sure anavar is more $$.

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