Thread: help have gyno!!!
03-25-2005, 06:51 PM #1
help have gyno!!!
i have a small lump under my nipple and it's very sore to the touch. i have been taking .5 l-dex every day,but i'm just now on my 2nd day of nolva @100mg/day.
how long until the nolva kicks in?
please help me guys!
03-25-2005, 06:55 PM #2
One you have gyno..........your stuck with it until surgery. You were supposed to jump on Nolva once tenderness started.
03-25-2005, 06:58 PM #3
i know this, but i just don't want it to get worse.
i don't really know if it's a lump persay, but it kind of feels like swollen muscle fibers or something.
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03-25-2005, 07:03 PM #5Originally Posted by longdong
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same happend to me, i got stuck with the pea sized lump though, Ndex took like 4 or 5 to kick in.
03-25-2005, 08:01 PM #7
you can try to use the ati Es but sometimes it wont help and surgery is the only option ...im getting my lump out in the next month or so ...good luck
03-25-2005, 08:17 PM #8
Try Letro maybe around 1.5mg.
03-25-2005, 08:53 PM #9
How big are the doses you are using. Its pretty hard to get gyno on armidex
03-25-2005, 09:30 PM #10Originally Posted by Nicky B
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I have had gyno...surgery and all. I make it a point to run not less than 1mg Armidex or Liquidex a day....I would up it. I have run two cycles with Letro also...I dont think its as effective as many say.
03-25-2005, 10:13 PM #12Originally Posted by Vegas67
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too late for nolva? what are you talking about? he is doing the right thing by taking the nolva.
03-25-2005, 10:34 PM #14
keep poppin the nolva bro.. its only day 2 so wait a few more days and let us know whats up.
03-26-2005, 01:28 AM #15
Thanks guys, Appreciate the advice and I'll definitely keep you posted.
03-30-2005, 10:12 PM #16
day 6 now with nolva @ 100mg /day!
my nipples are still sore and there's still a little lump behind them.
should i get some letro?
how long till it starts to work?
i still have 9 weeks left of my tren ,test and eq cycle, should i just keep the nolva @ 100mg until my nips aren't sore? will they stop being sore?
03-31-2005, 03:04 PM #17
03-31-2005, 04:06 PM #18
03-31-2005, 04:13 PM #19Associate Member
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relax keep taking the nolva and see what happens... it happened to me and i popped nolva for a while and it went away
03-31-2005, 04:31 PM #20Originally Posted by colossus1
Not true. Letro can and will reverse a gyno lump. Do a search or PM Lion he has the studeis to back that up. I also speak from personal experience. I had a gyno lump from previous cycles, then I started using prop EOD at 100mg, it got really bad. I was going to get surgery but heard about letro (femera) and decided to give it a try. It worked wonders totally got rid of the lump in a month, and I still continued the cycle. You do need to taper it off however, to prevent an estrogen rebound. This is how I ran it.
W1 2.5mg ED
W2 2.5mg ED
W3 2.5mg EOD
W4 1.25mg EOD
W5 .5mg EOD
W6 .25mg EOD
W7 .25mg twice in the week
Hope this helps. Btw you can buy letro from ARR (banner up above) for your research purposes. I have used it in my rats and it works great!
03-31-2005, 05:09 PM #21
man why do you people rehash a bunch of crap you hear like its the truth... he has a lump.... man I have had a dozen and nolva has made then dissapear ...
I am prone to it, I get swelling soon after each cycle, but a year off and it just dissipates to nothing... Letro can remove Gyno, and nolva can treat it while its fresh...
surgerey is the last thing to suggest if nothing else works, make the poor guy piss his pants why dont ya...
03-31-2005, 05:12 PM #22
thanks georgie.....anyone else?
hey george, how long should i run the nolva @ 100mg/day and the l-dex @ 1mg/day after i start the letro?
03-31-2005, 05:54 PM #23
03-31-2005, 07:58 PM #24Originally Posted by flabbywussy
You should absolultely not run any nolva with the letro. Nolva reduces the strength of letro. However, i'm not sure how long it will take the letro to achieve steady blood levels, you may want to find that out. So maybe continue running the ldex at 1mg a day along with the letro for a week, since you already have that in your blood stream. Then quit after a week because ldex is an AI just like letro and you wont need both. But once you start the letro, do not take the nolva. Btw nolva also reduces ldex (anastrozol) plasma levels as well.
Posted by Bask8Kace
NOTE: After this was posted, Pheedno mentioned the following which has been placed here to shed light on this possible mistake made by the original author of this post. Nolva in full clinical doses(20mgED) reduces letro plasma levels by 37.6%(Not the other way around at 50%). Nolva in full clinical doses reduces anastrozol plasma levels by 27%.
You can do a search the study backing up that claim is somewhere around here. I have seen it somewhere around here.
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04-01-2005, 12:28 AM #26Originally Posted by Georgie
did you run nolva and l-dex with the letro too?
04-01-2005, 12:45 AM #27Originally Posted by flabbywussy
No. didn't you read what was written? Nolva will severely decrease the strength of letro. Especially a 100mg dose. 20mg of nolva decreases the strength of 2.5mg of letro by 37%. After you taper off the letro, when you are finishing up your cycle then start the nolva and ldex for PCT. Run the nolva at 20mgED, ldex at .25 mg along with your clomid. Do you understand all the reasoning?
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04-01-2005, 01:08 AM #28
Here go to www.femara.com if you want to find out more info.
The only reason you would want to run nolva with letro is to help with your lipid profile. But since you are trying to get rid of an actual gyno lump, I would advise against it because it will severly reduce the letro strength. If you are going to insist on running nolva I would only run 10-20 mg max. But I advise against it. Just eat clean and do a lot of cardio, that will help with the cholesterol more than nolva ever could. I hope you understand and that this helps.
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04-02-2005, 02:24 PM #29
when should i stop the nolva and start the letro?
04-02-2005, 03:05 PM #30Originally Posted by Danbrooks2k
im going in next thursday for surgurey. $4860. and it will never be an issue again.
yes the lump will shrink but never go away,you may not be able to feel it at some point but as soon as your back on it will come back.once you have gyno you have it.
04-02-2005, 03:05 PM #31
if you have a gyno lump already developing, NOW. ASAP
04-02-2005, 04:20 PM #32Originally Posted by Georgie
04-02-2005, 09:08 PM #33
04-03-2005, 12:07 AM #34Originally Posted by flabbywussy
04-03-2005, 12:15 AM #35
got the info from a previous thread it's actually from MUdman.
how much letro should i take? sorry, i'm not too good at math
04-03-2005, 08:35 PM #36
04-03-2005, 09:37 PM #37Originally Posted by flabbywussy
W1 2.5mg ED + 20mg nolva
W2 2.5mg ED + 20mg nolva
W3 2.5mg ED
W4 2.5mg EOD
W5 1.25mg EOD
W6 .5mg EOD
W7 .25mg EOD
W7 .25mg twice in the week <-- cycle is a week or 2 from being over
W8 .25mg ldex <--- start your ldex and continue to run it al the way through PCT
04-06-2005, 06:34 PM #38Originally Posted by Georgie
sorry bro just never had titties b4.
04-07-2005, 02:29 AM #39
04-07-2005, 05:21 AM #40Originally Posted by Georgie
Ofcourse. But naturally this depends on how bad the gyno is.
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