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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    how about stamina and hairloss?!
    It seems as though I can lift weights longer(maybe just because I get so pumped and into it that I dont want to stop),but I cant run like I used to(I think it may be the weight gain).As far as hairloss I havent noticed any thus far(knock on wood).It is something that Ive been keeping an eye on and will post if it starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    how about stamina and hairloss?!
    I am finishing 10 weeks and have no hair loss and stamina has been great. Very little, if any, sides. I ran at 60mg ED for the majority of the cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West Coast All Star
    I am finishing 10 weeks and have no hair loss and stamina has been great. Very little, if any, sides. I ran at 60mg ED for the majority of the cycle.
    good to hear

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    how long did it take for u guys to feel it kicking in?

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    sounds good, I don t want to lose my cardio capacity. and neither my hair. I m a bit prone for mph so I didn t want to risk it for now...I m using var for a few weeks more, then I ll take off for 2 month of the orals, and I ll start over with t-bol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    sounds good, I don t want to lose my cardio capacity. and neither my hair. I m a bit prone for mph so I didn t want to risk it for now...I m using var for a few weeks more, then I ll take off for 2 month of the orals, and I ll start over with t-bol.
    Keep us posted when you start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastrg
    how long did it take for u guys to feel it kicking in?
    Id say 10 days....if I remember correctly.

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    Does anyone know if you keep the gains on Tbol as well as you do on VAR ??

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    I don't think too many bros have a long enough experience to answer the gains question.

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    I just thought with people comparing it as a VAR alternative that it would also keep the gains as much as VAR does. OR people also compare it to a weak Dianabol so would you lose all those gains just as much as you do with DBol ???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazbo
    I just thought with people comparing it as a VAR alternative that it would also keep the gains as much as VAR does. OR people also compare it to a weak Dianabol so would you lose all those gains just as much as you do with DBol ???????
    just a stab in the dark,but I would say they are keepable(at least I hope),as there is little to no water retention with tbol.

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    How is the bloating with Oral-T?

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    oral-t has no conversion to estrogen........therefore no bloat.....correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgerman
    oral-t has no conversion to estrogen........therefore no bloat.....correct?
    No bloat

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    I did 6 weeks @ 50mg ED a few months ago - no sides at all - no hairloss, no bloat, good stamina & it gave me wood - the perfect oral IMO.
    (i prefer it to var - cos var makes me a little depressed)

    Am just planning my next cycle of prop & tbol - I'm gonna do a really short cycle with a higher dose of tbol, or maybe a tbol / var mix

    1-8 Prop 50mg ED
    1-8 Tbol 60mg ED ....or...Var 75mg ED

    may try a tbol / var mix somthinh like 30mg Tbol + 40mg Var
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Earl
    I did 6 weeks @ 50mg ED a few months ago - no sides at all - no hairloss, no bloat, good stamina & it gave me wood - the perfect oral IMO.
    (i prefer it to var - cos var makes me a little depressed)

    Am just planning my next cycle of prop & tbol - I'm gonna do a really short cycle with a higher dose of tbol, or maybe a tbol / var mix

    1-8 Prop 50mg ED
    1-8 Tbol 60mg ED ....or...Var 75mg ED

    may try a tbol / var mix somthinh like 30mg Tbol + 40mg Var
    No loss in Stamina? You are postive on that one..right? I am thinking of tapering off my 5-Ester Test with T-bol, but cannot have any stamina loss whatsoever.

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    No loss in Stamina? You are postive on that one..right? I am thinking of tapering off my 5-Ester Test with T-bol, but cannot have any stamina loss whatsoever.
    I had no probs that I noticed - I don't compete in any sports tho, so I might not be so tuned into that sort of thing, I did notice a stamina prob with Var tho.

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    I dont think stamina is a prob with OT.....I cant run like I used to,but I think its due to the weight gain.

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    OT was (famously) used by many East German olympic athletes in the 60s & 70s & they won a sh!tload of medals during this state sanctioned doping scheme - this would also suggest it doesn't mess with stamina.

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    Started 7 days ago, at 40mg ED... No negative side effects so far, but I gained 2lbs which is kinda strange 'cause I'm on a cutter right now..

    Strenghtwise nothing much to report, even though I noticed increased training pumps...

    So far I love this compound..!

    RG

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    Bros......It is with regret I will not be finishing this diary, due to the banning of the smods.I wont be spending much time on AR anymore and hope the best for all of you.

    Sincerley,
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    Sad to see you go.

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    That's too bad jbol...i looked forward to your posts. goodluck with whatever else u do man.

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