Prop or Enanthate

**AG5678** · 03-28-2005, 10:39 PM

Hey bros i was talking to one of my friends and he is on Test Prop right now and he said that he can tell he is not "bloating" like he did while on Enanthate and it is not shutting him down as hard. I was going to do
Test E 500mg wk1-10
Nolva 10mg
Clomid
Maybe Var

Now i am thinking of doing
Test Prop 150mg EOD wk 1-10
nolva 10mg
Clomid
possibly var

Which cycle would you pick? How do you feel about that "bloat" that he was talking about?

This would be my first cycle
Stats
5'10
173
12% b/f

I would really appreciate the help. Thanks

**lucabratzi** · 03-28-2005, 10:41 PM

i would go with the first one. whats ur cycle experience,age

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 03-28-2005, 10:41 PM

As far as bloat goes for test E, some do some dont. Depends a lot on your diet...

Prop is a great choice, and a better one IMO. Makes PCT much easier to go into. But its best if its shot ED, so shoot 75mg ED.

**AG5678** · 03-28-2005, 10:44 PM

lucabratzi: On the bottom is stats

Mr Sparkle: Thanks for the help bro. You think i will still see the same results if i did Enanthate ? Maybe better?

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 03-28-2005, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

lucabratzi: On the bottom is stats

Mr Sparkle: Thanks for the help bro. You think i will still see the same results if i did Enanthate? Maybe better?

Well Id do the prop, even at 150 EOD over the test e....

**symatech** · 03-28-2005, 11:16 PM

I'd go with the prop, but ED instead of EOD

**swedes** · 03-29-2005, 01:25 AM

eod will be ok especially for a beginner-some people like to be pin cushions and say ed but few have tried both and found differences at the same dose.

**zuke** · 03-29-2005, 01:29 AM

i bloated quite a bit from enanthate . my next cycle is going to be prop and tren . i am hoping to harden up quite a bit.

**symatech** · 03-29-2005, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by swedes

eod will be ok especially for a beginner-some people like to be pin cushions and say ed but few have tried both and found differences at the same dose.

I tried both as well and found ED to be better. perhaps he should just try both

**blizzard** · 03-29-2005, 07:04 AM

ED injections are always hard bro

, I would rather use enanthate cycle with propionate .

**co2boi** · 03-29-2005, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by blizzard

ED injections are always hard bro

, I would rather use enanthate cycle with propionate.

huh, how does that work?

**Pale Horse** · 03-29-2005, 01:26 PM

Prop hands down , no comparison for me

**taiboxa** · 03-29-2005, 01:27 PM

hell im bout to finish up a 20wk cycle of 100mgProp ED 500mgEQwkly
kinda fall inlove w/ the ED jections

but yeah i love prop hard lean mass is sexy

**mule1983** · 03-29-2005, 01:29 PM

ED injections are not hard unless you have some aversion to needles. my first cycle was ED prop and i was fine with it... i actually prefer it over twice a week injections, not because of different gains, sides, etc. but because i am insane and like to poke myself with a needle filled fith testosterone ... I get off on it.

**taiboxa** · 03-29-2005, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by mule1983

ED injections are not hard unless you have some aversion to needles. my first cycle was ED prop and i was fine with it... i actually prefer it over twice a week injections, not because of different gains, sides, etc. but because i am insane and like to poke myself with a needle filled fith testosterone... I get off on it.

yes ED injects make me Mentally feel like im getting more out of it...

**fighteveryone** · 03-29-2005, 01:33 PM

While on enanthate i felt like the Stay Puffed Marshmallow Man. Prop is my fav test by far. I run it with all of my cycles now.

**DrugsrGood** · 03-29-2005, 01:40 PM

I notice a good amount of water retention on enanthate , and almost none on prop. Enanthate is my preference for sure.

**chris2wire** · 03-29-2005, 01:41 PM

Test-E puffed me up like no other.

Keep in mind I get bloated EASILY, so needless to say Test-E bloated me. But boy oh boy, did it ever bloat me. Yikes. I felt FAT even while KNOWING it was all water. I wasnt cut anymore and my face was all fat looking.

Long acting esters is a great idea, but not for everyone.

**taiboxa** · 03-29-2005, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by DrugsrGood

I notice a good amount of water retention on enanthate, and almost none on prop. Enanthate is my preference for sure.

see thats why i like prop i dont like looking soft at all

hardness/vascularity = sex'appeal in my small world

**GridIronDevil** · 03-29-2005, 01:46 PM

IMO prop is great, but trust me if youra first timer go with EOD at 150, it takes prop 3 days to completly break down so it wont be that much diff., especially fora firs timer

**taiboxa** · 03-29-2005, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by GridIronDevil

IMO prop is great, but trust me if youra first timer go with EOD at 150, it takes prop 3 days to completly break down so it wont be that much diff., especially fora firs timer

EOD fluxuates my Hormone lvls and i tried that and i don tknow if it was because i was doing 200mg EOD or just because im white.. but it seemed to make me break out

all cleared up when i went back to ED's

**symatech** · 03-29-2005, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by mule1983

ED injections are not hard unless you have some aversion to needles. my first cycle was ED prop and i was fine with it... i actually prefer it over twice a week injections

exactly same thing for me. I'll never inject any short ester EOD again. ever

**GridIronDevil** · 03-29-2005, 01:53 PM

alright thats cool, its jus takin me a while to get used to injectin this **** maybe mines gota lil higher BA content, but actually i think i am getting more use to it so maybe ill start everyday soon but i kinda like EOD i think its all personal preference personally

**taiboxa** · 03-29-2005, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by GridIronDevil

alright thats cool, its jus takin me a while to get used to injectin this **** maybe mines gota lil higher BA content, but actually i think i am getting more use to it so maybe ill start everyday soon but i kinda like EOD i think its all personal preference personally

true that is just make sure u have ample spots to inject and it always made me ache... except when i mixed it w/ eq.

**GridIronDevil** · 03-29-2005, 01:56 PM

hey IYO is four sites enough if not ill just add the ventrogluteal in also but as it is now im hittin my spots oncea week rotation goes left delt left quad right quad right delt sond good?

**taiboxa** · 03-29-2005, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by GridIronDevil

hey IYO is four sites enough if not ill just add the ventrogluteal in also but as it is now im hittin my spots oncea week rotation goes left delt left quad right quad right delt sond good?

give each spot atleast a weak before poking it again.. scar tissu is NOT cool

**taiboxa** · 03-29-2005, 01:59 PM

i have like 12 spots i cycle through

**juicebag1987** · 03-29-2005, 02:44 PM

what do you take after you are done with the test to prevent yourself from shutting down? How do you keep your test levels stable afterwards?

**DrugsrGood** · 03-29-2005, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

see thats why i like prop i dont like looking soft at all

hardness/vascularity = sex'appeal in my small world

I definitely like the vascularity from prop, but I'm lean, and I'll take any mass I can get right now. Maybe closer to summer.

**AG5678** · 03-29-2005, 05:06 PM

thanks for all the replies so far. Like i wrote earlier i am 173lb i probably look around 160-165lb becuase of the creatine. I really want to put on some mass. Would prop be the right route to go becuase it seems to favor more of the "lean" look than the "bulk" look? I will also run some Var also.

**Cuttup** · 03-29-2005, 05:31 PM

the bloat from test e was a bi@tch for me. I plan to do prop my next cycle,...I just have to get use to everyday injections vs twice per week

**Xy1on** · 03-29-2005, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by mule1983

ED injections are not hard unless you have some aversion to needles. my first cycle was ED prop and i was fine with it... i actually prefer it over twice a week injections, not because of different gains, sides, etc. but because i am insane and like to poke myself with a needle filled fith testosterone... I get off on it.

Lmao @ that sh!t!

**Cuttup** · 03-29-2005, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Xy1on

Lmao @ that sh!t!

he's a cutter !!!

**hardgainer1** · 03-29-2005, 05:58 PM

Do em both and take proviron everyday to stop the bloat, worked for me

**AG5678** · 03-29-2005, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

thanks for all the replies so far. Like i wrote earlier i am 173lb i probably look around 160-165lb becuase of the creatine. I really want to put on some mass. Would prop be the right route to go becuase it seems to favor more of the "lean" look than the "bulk" look? I will also run some Var also.

Bump?