is it possible

**stompin** · 03-31-2005, 07:38 AM

to gain weight/size naturally after 3 cycles in 5 years,

i.e

i have done 3 cycles consisting of

1st

1-10 sust 250mg e/w
1-5 test undecanate 40mg e/d

no pct due 2 lack of knolegde in that department

2nd

1-10 sust 250mg e/w
1-8 horse deca ... cant remember the mg
1-4 dbol 35mg e/d
6-10 winny tabs e/d

yet again no pct

3rd

1-12 test Cyp 400 mg e/w
1-4 100mg anadrol e/d
1-12 nolva 20mg e/d

pct - nolva hcg

so would it be possible 2 put on hold my next cycle to try and regain
the gains naturally what i think i cheated myself out of starting
roids to soon whats every1 think?

**stompin** · 03-31-2005, 07:44 AM

by the way, i waited untill i was fully growin and had years of training experience

i started my first cycle when i was 21 im 25 now but never reached my natural
protenshal before doing gear,

any advice would be muchly apreaciated

thanks

steven

**Dude-Man** · 03-31-2005, 07:48 AM

what are your current stats? i'll tell you how much room you've probably got to grow, assuming average genetics, and great workout and diet.

**S.P.G** · 03-31-2005, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by stompin

to gain weight/size naturally after 3 cycles in 5 years,

i.e

i have done 3 cycles consisting of

1st

1-10 sust 250mg e/w
1-5 test undecanate 40mg e/d

no pct due 2 lack of knolegde in that department

2nd

1-10 sust 250mg e/w
1-8 horse deca ... cant remember the mg
1-4 dbol 35mg e/d
6-10 winny tabs e/d

yet again no pct

3rd

1-12 test Cyp 400 mg e/w
1-4 100mg anadrol e/d
1-12 nolva 20mg e/d

pct - nolva hcg

so would it be possible 2 put on hold my next cycle to try and regain
the gains naturally what i think i cheated myself out of starting
roids to soon whats every1 think?

How long have you been training, I wouldn’t of thought you’ve burnt out on gear or natural training yet, not unless you’ve been training for 10y go natural for as long as possible, or you feel you cant gain any more. you will get more out of the gear that way..JMO

***Billy_Bathgate*** · 03-31-2005, 08:43 AM

if you cant make gains, naturally...you have no business using steroids at all anyways

you should be able to always make gains. if not, either your training or workout needs help.

**stompin** · 03-31-2005, 09:03 AM

due to lack of knolegde i lost all my gains made from AAS,
and im only 13 stone @ 6f tall @ about 6% bf due to rec drugs but,
just starting to relise that health is the key i was looking for,

and im putting my deit in check for bullking,
ive only really lifting for 3 years on and off so
i want to make sure i can get to at least 16 stone b4
i even look at my next cycle,

what do you guys think?

thanks

steve.

**stompin** · 03-31-2005, 05:15 PM

bump!!!!!!!

any1?

**punchrf** · 03-31-2005, 05:22 PM

i liked the part about horse deca and knolegde.

But seriously i think you will be able to make considerable gains naturally (eventhough i have no idea how much 13 stones is) but it might be kind of disappointing how slow the gains come than if you were to be on cycle. you would have a lot better base if you were to put some more mass on first naturally, then think about another cycle. definetely go with natural with good diet and training. just my opinion

**punchrf** · 03-31-2005, 05:25 PM

i didn't see the part about recreational drugs, they don't mix very well with roids. if you plan on continueing rec drugs then roids should be out of the question. i hope you have already made the choice not to take them anymore.

**stompin** · 04-01-2005, 02:33 AM

ive stopped the rec drugs bro,
and 13 stone is round about 180lbs (i think)
its about 14lbs per stone ruffly!
so im qieit skinny ass really,

thanks for the info