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Hello guys,
I,m planning my third cycle and I would appreciate your comments on it. Currently my stats are 5'11, 215lbs, 13% bf, 7 yrs training. I,m looking for quality gains, not to bulk.
1-13 prop- 100mg ed
1-12 eq- 500mg per week
5-13 var- 50mg ed
8-13 winny- 50mg ed
I would also like to include tren @ 75ed, what do you think? when should I include it during the cycle?
clomid and nolva will be included post cycle.
Thanks for your comments.
you need to re-arrange it a bit so pct times match up. Also I would run var at the beggining and winny at the end... not together.
1-15 prop- 100mg ed
1-12 eq- 500mg per week
1-8 var- 50mg ed
1-10 Tren 75mg ed
10-15 winny- 50mg ed
PCT begins 3 days after last prop shot, 1 day after last winny
This looks good, and if you're looking for massive yet clean gains you can't go wrong with tren. Personally I would drop the var, it kills my appetite, or drop the winny and use masteron instead. I don't like the idea of running orals for 15 weeks, even if they are mild orals. Besides you'll get better results from masteron without the joint issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Consistency
Thanks Consistency, for your recommendations!
I would like to include var in my cycle, if i would like to change the winny to the masteron, how do you recommend to use it and when?
I'd run 75mg of mast ed from the start until the end. It's a prop ester so it will be out of your system at the same time as your test prop.Quote:
Originally Posted by HEAT
Thanks joevette for your recommendation.
guys which cycle would you pick if you would me?
1-15 prop- 100mg ed
1-15 masteron- 75mg ed
1-12 eq- 500mg per week
1-8 var- 50mg ed
1-10 Tren 75mg ed
or
1-15 prop- 100mg ed
1-12 eq- 500mg per week
1-8 var- 50mg ed
1-10 Tren 75mg ed
10-15 winny- 50mg ed
Thanks for your comments!
Ive never run masteron... but if your BF is low enough (less then 9%) I would use the masteron
This is true for winny too, though. They're both DHT derivitives and so they are good for hardening, but you won't be able to tell if you're chubby. The advantage of masteron over winny is that it doesn't hurt your joints and you don't have to stress your liver for 15 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Consistency
thanks again consistency.
well, I'm 13%bf. so between mast and winny, i should go with winny?
any other comments?
I think winny will be more beneficial at a slightly higher BF (3-4% higher) then masteron. Then again I wont ever run winny again due to hairloss and joint pain in my elbows around week 5-6.Quote:
Originally Posted by HEAT
Your at 13%, do you plan on losing a few % as your cycle progresses?
I will be doing a very clean diet to try to reduce any possible water retention. my plans to reduce bf% will be after cycle.
hey guys, please select between cycle 1 or 2. which one would you pick?
cycle 1
1-15 prop- 100mg ed
1-15 masteron- 75mg ed
1-12 eq- 500mg per week
1-8 var- 50mg ed
1-10 Tren 75mg ed
cycle2
1-15 prop- 100mg ed
1-12 eq- 500mg per week
1-8 var- 50mg ed
1-10 Tren 75mg ed
10-15 winny- 50mg ed
Actually if I were you, I would just run a prop, tren, var cycle. I know many who have run this in the past and have obtained unbelievable results. Im running a prop, var, tren cycle starting next week, so I also might be a bit biased.Quote:
Originally Posted by HEAT