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    Glucosamine for joints

    Not really a gear question but related to gear. Does anyone here use glucosamine for joint repair or anything else? If so, how much do you use or how do you take it?

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    Hey toolman.
    I use a Glucosamine & Chondroitin complex in pill format. Per pill: Glucosamine sulphate 600 mg, Chondroitin sulphate 250 mg. I take one of these a day with a glass of water, usually after eating, 3 times a day. In total 1.8g of Glucosamine sulphate and 750mg of Chondroitin sulphate per day. It does help with aches, pains, joint problems, etc, but you do have to take it for at least a month to notice any difference.

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    supplement forum......

    it is good stuff though, i like it in liquid form..with msm.

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    my mom use it for her joints so i told her about my elbow it hurts when i do tris so she told me to use it & here simply how it works the Gulcosamine & the chondroitin sulphate reconstruct the cartilage matrix, while ascorbic acid works by mopping free oxygen radicals thus aiding in the prevention of cartilage damage.

    1 pill contains

    Gulcosamine sulphate 500mg
    chondroitin sulphate 400mg
    Ascorbic acid 100mg

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    Had bad shoulder pain, take glucosamine daily, pain is almost gone.

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    Toolman, here's what I posted in another thread.
    "I'm having elbow problems. After reading every post possible, seemed the most talked about was Glucosamine, Chondroitin, and MSM. The company Schiff sells a bottle called "Move Free" Joint Strengthener which contains all 3.
    This bottle has 1500mg Glucosamine, 1200mg Chondroitin, and 1500 MSM"
    And just like MatrixGuy said, everywhere says about 4 weeks to kick in.
    Then there's the obvious answer everyone likes to give, including myself, Deca

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    Sounds like solid stuff. THanks for the input.

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    they have a new product out that is supposed to replace glucosimine its being tested now so we will see how it pans out it is OTC


    What is Celadrin?

    Celadrin® is a medically and clinically proven pain management compound developed through a proprietary process of esterifying oils. Celadrin® is a novel, all natural ingredient which has been medically shown to reduce inflammation and pain with no side effects. The Celadrin® compound represents a matrix of fatty acid carbons which have been scientifically arranged to achieve maximum efficacy for joint mobility and health. Celadrin® is a revolutionary complex which has been scientifically designed to restore mobility and relieve pain quickly. Along with its many studies and scientific presentations, Celadrin® has been published on two occasions in the internationally acclaimed Journal of Rheumatology.

    What does it do?

    Celadrin® systematically enhances and lubricates cell membranes throughout the body providing youthful cell fluidity and elasticity. This includes the enhancement of fluids that cushions your bones and joints to maintain flexibility and mobility so that you can move with ease and pain free. Not only does Celadrin work on joints, but it has also been shown to work directly on tendons and muscles as well, providing restoration of a wide range of joint health conditions including sports injuries to joints, muscles, tendons and deep tissue.

    Celadrin® has been proven to provide cumulative (continuous and restorative) benefit.

    In a double blind clinical trial, oral Celadrin® showed significant benefit beyond the arthritic medication the subjects were taking – with cumulative improvement shown throughout the study.

    100% of the patients in the study on the proprietary cream showed significant benefit compared to the patients on the placebo.

    In another double blind, matched pair topical cream study, conducted at the University of Connecticut, 100% of the osteoarthritic subjects on Celadrin® showed significant improvement in just 30 minutes and cumulative benefits throughout the remaining 30 days of the study. Patients were assessed for range of motion, pain levels, timed up and go, timed stair climbing and muscular endurance tests. Significance was demonstrated in every test.

    How does Celadrin® work?

    Celadrin® works similar to, but much more dramatically than the essential fatty acids EPA and DHA from fish oils. Celadrin’s complex blend of esterified fatty acids; provide many vital and beneficial effects for the inflammatory responses in the body. Celadrin® induces changes at the cellular level, in the cell membranes which positively affect the responsiveness of the cell membranes. This aids in the reduction of cartilage breakdown in the joints.

    The body is made up of an enormous amount of cells separated into varied types and functions. The cell membrane is the organized structure that separates and protects components in the cell from neighboring cells and the outside world. Some of the major components of the cell membrane are structural lipids. These lipids regulate the nutrients, minerals, electrolytes, drugs and other compounds across the cell membrane. This regulation is very critical to the adequate function and health of the individual cell.

    Celadrin® enhances the cell membrane and its integrity for efficient functionality. Celadrin® provides the cell membrane with an ideal blend of lipids to enhance its function. A myriad or countless number of body stressors impairs and targets the cell membrane’s lipids which creates damage to the peak functioning and health of the membrane and cell. This reaction damages the membrane and can cause the cell’s demise. Consuming or applying Celadrin® enables the cell membrane to protect the cell and repel the stressors. Celadrin® also assists in perfecting the functioning or the channeling capabilities of the cell membrane. The result is a more efficient, fluid, permeable and a youthful cell membrane.

    Loss of cell membrane integrity from internal and external stressors begins a number of rapid aging processes – including uncontrolled or imbalanced inflammation. Inflammation can occur with age, dietary conditions, free radicals, stress or other insults which stimulate or stiffen cell membranes. This could lead to one or more forms of arthritis (bursitis and tendonitis included); periodontal disease, wrinkles, cardiovascular disease (CVD), rapid aging and many other related maladies. Celadrin® not only halts the cascade of inflammation but, rapidly begins restoring the body on a cumulative basis. Flexibility is restored, pain is eliminated and appearance of wrinkles is reversed. Celadrin® accomplishes these features by enhancing the lipid structure of the cell membrane and converting it to a super membrane enabling the cells to rapidly repair and regenerate. This unique enhancement of the cell membrane leads to the multitude of restorative, healing and age reversing attributes of Celadrin® - including arthritis and inflammatory conditions

    How would you compare Vioxx and other Cox 2 – Inhibitors to Celadrin®?

    Vioxx works as a Cox-2 inhibitor, which causes numerous side effects - including upper and lower G.I. bleeding amongst other even more serious side effects. The whole class of Cox-2 inhibitors raises doubts about their safety. These drugs were supposed to offer the pain killing features of aspirin without damage to the stomach lining.

    When taking Vioxx or other Cox-2s one only receives pain relief for a short period of time. Celadrin® helps relieve the stiffened membrane caused by aging, inflammation and other assaults. Restoration and joint health begins with Celadrin® where it has immediate and cumulative benefits, with no negative side effects. Safety profile of Celadrin® is impeccable. With Celadrin® one is better off tomorrow and the next day than they are today – it just gets better every day as Celadrin® addresses causation not just the symptoms.

    Celadrin® works on the cell membrane to allow rapid healing - you don't even need glucosamine to repair cartilage, Celadrin® provides the healing of the joint and surrounding tendons and tissues. One does not need the matrix of the bone to repair a broken arm - but with Celadrin® even that broken arm will be repaired faster - naturally.

    In summary, all Cox-2s inherently have serious and numerous side effects - particularly when taken daily.

    How does Celadrin® compare to other natural joint health products?

    Celadrin's beneficial effects have been proven superior in results to Glucosamine, Chondroitin, MSM, SAMe and other natural joint health products.
    Celadrin® provides restoration of a wide range of joint health conditions including sports injuries to joints, muscles, tendons and deep tissue.
    Can Celadrin® work well in conjunction to taking Glucosamine?

    The cause of wear on the joint area can be attributable to inflammation as well as insufficient lubrication and cell membrane fluidity. Glucosamine assists in the rebuilding of cartilage & the overall structure of the joint and has shown moderate effects on people with osteoarthritis. Celadrin® provides continuous lubrication and allows the cell membrane to repel inflammatory chemicals. Celadrin® stops the cascade of inflammation and the assaults on the membrane which cause it to stiffen. Celadrin ® empowers glucosamine to perform faster and more efficiently in building joint cartilage as well as accelerating and promoting joint health. The dual action of Celadrin® and glucosamine provide rapid joint cushioning, quickly alleviate inflammation, build cartilage and restore the entire joint area.

    Does Celadrin work like Vioxx and Celabrex?

    No synthetic Cox-2 inhibitors are very specific. In addition to producing inflammatory agents in the body, Cox-2 is required in the manufacture of prostacyclin a very positive prostaglandin. Because Cox-2 uses up this protective prostaglandin this is likely the reason behind its negative effects. Celadrin does not affect prostacylcin and therefor provides a safe, non-toxic anti-inflammatory action.
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    That's some good info Bryan2.

    I've used 1g of glucosamine and 1g of MSM and sometime condroiton for years, and I'm only 22. I figure a little prevention would go a long way with the heavy weights I lift.

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    I used Osteo Bi-Flex Glucosamine Chondroitin complex triple strength for my left elbow that been killing me for a few weeks now and NOTHING I dont know what the hell it says take 2 a day i take 3 and i took some other stuff i got from gnc on top of that and still nothing theirs no hope for my elbow when I dumbell curl my gym partner needs to help me bring the weight down because of the pain

    Each pill had
    1,500mg of Glucosamine HCI
    1,200mg Chondroitin Sulfate
    3mg Boron
    Last edited by playboii; 04-01-2005 at 10:28 PM.

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    yup i take the same one as XTC75....awesome stuff!

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