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    Keeping dbol & test gains

    I've been watching the effectiveness charts and noticing the keep gains stats on both dbol and test in general are very low. How is it possible to keep the gains when both of these steroids have low stats?
    If i run a dbol & test cycle and gain i.e,. 25p, how much of this could i expect to ble muscle mass and how much can i expect to keep after the cycle?

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    u will lose water wieght but as for quality muscle loss, it all depends on ur pct, training and most importanlty if u keep ur diet up. if all those are in check u wont loose very much if any

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    Ok, good to hear, what about if i add deca , how much more could i expect to gain then ?

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    Depends on your diet and training.

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    if its going to be your fist cycle just stick to the d-bol and test. on your first cycle you will have good gain and with good pct and diet you can keep 80%

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    Ok, with a good diet and good training program ( train 5 times a week ) how much could i expect to gain from a d-bol and test cycle

    5 weeks d-bol

    12 weeks test

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    20 pounds

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    So i can expect to keep 16 pounds ?

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    I'm speaking as someone who has yet to take his first cycle, but I think if you added the deca it would be easier to keep the gains because it's one of the very best for keeping gains (at least that's what most people tell me). Anyway, I think I'm going to go with 300 mg Test En and 200 mg deca for 10 weeks, 35 mg D-bol ed for first 4 weeks as a booster to help get me going.

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    stick with test only so this way if you have any sides you know what there from. when you start to stack 2 3 compounds you will not know what one is giving the sides.

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    Yeah I hear that. But I am taking all of these at pretty low dosages. And if I don't feel right I'll quit the whole cycle and immediately do pct. At these doses I'm really not too worried about it. The D-bols I'll feel before anything else so I'll just stop taking them if they don't agree with me and continue with the rest of my cycle as planned. Also, when you consider that deca has far fewer sides usually than test, I don't think it's an unreasonable thing to throw that little bit of deca in there to help keep those gains. Indeed, it seems a little foolish not to, imo.
    Last edited by SensP; 04-02-2005 at 04:19 PM. Reason: grammatical error

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    You can not know how your body will react to a chemical the does it self does not matter. What if you have a reaction to one of the compounds? You will not know what one it is from.

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    If I have a serious reaction I'll obviously high tail it to the e.r. and tell them everything I've been taking.

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    your life good luck

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    I got it handled, bro.

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    Besides I'm hardly the 1st one to take a test, deca , d-bol 1st cycle. And again, I'm using low dosages of everything.

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    Ok, what about Test, Dbol and winstrol ..
    Test 12weeks
    DBol 5 weeks
    And Winstrol ( dont know ) :P

    Whats normal to run with winstrol ? And could i expect to keep alot of the gains since winstrol are very good to keep gains ?

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