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    musclestack is offline Productive Member
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    suggestions please

    I know I have asked a question similar to this in the past, but I thought I'd give a little more info. about my problem and get more input from you guys. In my past 5 or 6 cycles, I have not broken 190 lbs. Now, I know you're thinking it's cuz of my diet and/or training, but trust me, it's not. I take in at least 350 gm. protein/day and as many calories as I can get my hands on (as long as it's not junk).

    Now, I have had two different opinions on this:

    1). I have hit a genetic barrier that is hindering me from going over a certain weight that, however, can be corrected by using products such as IGF, Slin, or GH. By the way, I have ordered some IGF (LR3) from my supplier, which is why I'm asking you guys for a little more input before I use it.

    2). The second theory is that I have not waited long enough between cycles and my body has not had a long enough break. Now, I have heard that the rule of thumb is to stay off gear as long as your last cycle was (for example: 8 weeks on, 8 weeks off). I followed this rule, so I'm a little puzzled. Another reason that I'm a little skeptical of this theory is because I know a number of people who use AAS year-round, non-stop and they do not have a problem with making gains.

    I am on a cycle at this moment running Sust-750 mg/wk, Deca -600 mg/wk (both EOD), and dianabol tabs-50 mg/day. And I have, once again, stopped at 191 lbs. It's almost like I get a big water bloat within the first 2 weeks, and after that, nothing. I still have the AAS side effects too (oily skin, a little acne, more energetic throughout the day, coarse hair). I know that the gear has to be doing something cuz I'm maintaining my weight and strength at least. Any suggestions would be very appreciated.

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    Ever ran tren ? The first time I ran tren it put me over 200 pounds for the first time. I was always stuck around 195 and then I hit 205. I ran about a gram of test a week with 75mg tren ED w/ some dbol for the first 4 weeks or so. I'm running it now with test, dbol, GH and IGF.
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    1) IGF is good stuff.. I reccomend it for everyone

    2)time on =time off, unless you get blood levels checker and your back to normal

    And if you cant grow off 750mg of test, 600mg of deca , and 50mg of dbol there is something seriously wrong you are doing! Are you sure you gear is legit?

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    IGF or no?

    I'm sure the gear is legit. I've let some friends try it. Do you think it's posssible that I just need to take a longer period off? Like 4 months? The longest cycle I've been on was 10 weeks long. (I then took 10 weeks off). So, what do you think, should I add the IGF (LR3) to my cycle when I get it this week or should I just save it for my next cycle after I take a while off? If this isn't the case, could someone please explain to me why I am still getting the AAS side effects like oily skin, increased aggression, etc.??? Thanks.

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    I prefer 8 to 10 week cycles because it seems my gains stop at that time. I haven't used it yet but IGF is supposed to be good for PCT and bridging between cycles.

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