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04-06-2005, 04:54 PM #1New Member
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testosterone questions
Hi guys,
As you can probably tell, im new here. Ive been reading for about a week now, I have some questions about testosterone I hope you guys can help me out with. Take test cypionate for example. It is a slow acting ester, how long before it starts having an effect on your blood test levels? I have heard 4-7 days, is this correct? It stays active for 2-3 weeks, is that correct also?
I read that the average male produces around 200mg a week of test, correct?
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04-06-2005, 05:09 PM #2Originally Posted by JohnN
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04-06-2005, 06:47 PM #3Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by JohnN
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04-06-2005, 06:58 PM #4New Member
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so anything more than your body's own 40-80mgs of test will cause your natural test production to shut down after 3 weeks?
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04-06-2005, 07:01 PM #5Originally Posted by JohnN
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04-06-2005, 07:06 PM #6
i wish i produced 200mg a week of test naturaly
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Originally Posted by JohnN
How much is your natural levels like you only make 40 mg a week and this is the shut down valve... well its complicated. Estrogen causes more profound reaction to your shut down then high testosterone . 10% of your testosterone converts to estrogen and its most likely that blood estrogen levels are the primary control mechanism on the HTPA. Some of us as we get older dont stay on the 10% conversion to estrogen, in fact its closer to 15% and 20% for those guys having troubles with testosterone production.Last edited by Ntpadude; 04-06-2005 at 07:09 PM.
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04-06-2005, 08:40 PM #8Originally Posted by Ntpadude
This is a very informative thread! So if I inject 6 times the amount of test my body produces the first week I will start to feel it the first week?
I guess I see why so many people frontload.....
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04-06-2005, 11:15 PM #9New Member
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the info.
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04-07-2005, 03:23 AM #10New Member
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Originally Posted by Consistency
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04-07-2005, 09:47 AM #11Originally Posted by JohnN
With long estered test, it takes about 4-5 weeks to see significant strength gains and to see the beginning of actual muscle size gains. Why? Because each of your last several injections have left some test in you that has not yet left the body or been converted to other compounds. You have to consider each shot individually, and you can roughly calculate how much of that shot is left in you. So after 4 weeks or so, your first shot still has a small amount left in your body. The second shot still has a tiny bit more remaining. The third shot, still more. Finally you get to the most recent shot, which is still 100% in your body. To complicate things, the hormone is released into the bloodstream slowly, over time, so your serum test levels are not much influenced by the shot you took yesterday. So you can see how test builds up in the blood over a long period of time, much longer than the half-life figure.
Some users will "jump start" a cycle of cyp or enanth with a short ester such as prop, or with suspension, for the first four weeks, so that levels are high and the hormone is making it's effect felt after only a week. (oral jumpstarting is more common though)
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