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    Question What for long distance running

    I run the marathon in less than 2H30, with all natural training (never taken any kind of supplement, nothing except standard food !).
    I have hard time inproving now.
    Which advice could you give me to go further ?
    Not training advice -I think I know and tried much about training- but complements/chemical advice ...
    I'm 39 y/o, small and lean but some fat remains, so I think loosing some fat could help.
    Maybe being quite stronger could also help, but without any weight gain (weight is my ennemy).
    Sure, having more red blood cells could definitively help.

    Any idea (assuming I continue my quite hard cardio and endurance training) ?

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    var for strength, endurance I would go with EPO(but I am not into endurance)

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    eq is good for endurance

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    Long distance runs

    I am 41 and while I don't run marathons, I do like to regularly have runs in the 6 mile range and I will go up to a half marathon.

    Anavar will help you for the following reasons:

    1) Increase red blood cell count
    2) increase muscle strength
    3) no water retention-little to no weight gain (you might get some very minor weight gain since muscle weighs more than fat)
    4) no adverse effect on ligaments and tendons
    5) your bodyfat will decrease

    You could do in the range of 20 to 50 mg per day.

    IF you find your joints feel "dry" on anavar, you could add a very low dose of deca -durabolin (roughly 100 mg per week) just to keep the joints "lubed".

    I am doing 100 mg per week deca and 20 mg per day anavar right now, I am in the 7th week and my running has really improved, distances that used to make me feel tired seem much easier.

    My bodyweight has stayed almost exactly the same (235, 6'4") but I look like I have lost bodyfat-I am now starting to see my abs.

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    think GH would help him out?
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    EPO, DADA, Adephos (injectable ATP), low doses of Deca for joints, GH is also a favorite but for training more than the actual event...

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    Thumbs up Thanks, will go with var and keep you informed ...

    As you know, "availability" is also a concern.
    So, I will go with "var", since I think I can get some, and according to your answers, I can expect some results.
    I will take care of my joints, since I read it can be an issue.
    Thanks, I will keep you informed ...

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    epo rocks for endurance

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    Mate no offense but you need to research a lot more. I'm sure no one posting in this thread will disagree that they come from a bb background and the info above is good but not for you. If you take var your endurance will be absolutely shot.

    1. var causes cortisol suppression which negatively effects endurance.

    2. suppressed cortisol levels make for achy joints for an endurance athlete.

    3. The slight increase in hematocrit% is insignificant compared to the above factors

    We have all grossly overestimated the amount of steroids used by aerobic athletes. If they are used at all, it's certainly much less than we suspect.

    If extensive endurance is your given task, there are better substances to look at than AS.

    If your an anaerobic athlete...oxandrolone is a wonderful compound to choose. If aerobic don't do it you will be running a lot slower than you are at the moment. even a kilogram of weight will kill you on a marathon.

    You need EPO, aranesp and actovegin to help otherwise you will be slowed down.

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    didn't you just say?

    Quote Originally Posted by hoopcat528
    I am 41 and while I don't run marathons, I do like to regularly have runs in the 6 mile range and I will go up to a half marathon.

    Anavar will help you for the following reasons:

    1) Increase red blood cell count
    2) increase muscle strength
    3) no water retention-little to no weight gain (you might get some very minor weight gain since muscle weighs more than fat)
    4) no adverse effect on ligaments and tendons
    5) your bodyfat will decrease

    You could do in the range of 20 to 50 mg per day.

    IF you find your joints feel "dry" on anavar, you could add a very low dose of deca -durabolin (roughly 100 mg per week) just to keep the joints "lubed".

    I am doing 100 mg per week deca and 20 mg per day anavar right now, I am in the 7th week and my running has really improved, distances that used to make me feel tired seem much easier.

    My bodyweight has stayed almost exactly the same (235, 6'4") but I look like I have lost bodyfat-I am now starting to see my abs.
    you run the marathon is 2hr3o mins? now here you said you go for six mile run?i don't understand......

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    Hey bro I think you got the top 2 posts mixed up.

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    def epo

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    hehe 'velediction' asked the question he is the marathon runner and hoopcat528 runs 6miles. check ya bro.

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    bro when im on gear my endurance sucks. even on eq i noticed it wasnt all that good. my advice to you is just to keep running naturally and train harder and longer to achieve your goal.

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    try supps maybe - glycerol is something to look into in the warmer races. ll08

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