Second cycle inquiry

hi bros...i am thinking about my second cycle i am not sure though, what do u guys think:

deca weeks 1-10 (300 mg per week)
winstrol weeks 5-10 (50 mg eod)
d-bol weeks 1-4 (30 mg/day weeks 1-2)
(35 mg/day weeks 2-4)

.....and of course proper pct.
Now i know best way to use deca would be with some test compound but the thing is i dont wanna stick myself so much, plus i got a mild case of gyno from my last cycle (puffy and pointier nipples). Last cycle i used high dose of test. Thank u all in advance and appreciate all the support. This website is the best...

why don't you add 400mg test and run some letro 2 weeks b4 your cycle all the way up to pct?

Add some Test and put it in the same syringe as the Deca, still the same number of shots then. No Test = No Cycle

You dont wanna add test because of the twice a week injections!?! Thats ridiculous. Did you run an anti e with your last cycle? You know deca causes progestrone gyno which is worse then gyno from test... and I didnt see any mention of an anti e for deca.? Winny needs to be taking ED, actually every 12 hours to be best. You need to do a little more research bro

so u dont think d bol wont be a sub substitute for the test?

oh yeah deca dick... have fun with that. NO DBOL will only lower test levels MORE!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Ladies Man

so u dont think d bol wont be a sub substitute for the test?

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No..

You need to get educated bro. Read thses threads and then come back http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/161345-newbies-starter-pack.html

listen to what these people say, you should definitely use test. You said you ran a high dose of test on your first cycle, what do you consider is a high dose? Did you use any anti e's?

there is NO substitute for test

No deca and whinny at once IMO-why try and get ripped up when you are getting big and puffy from deca and dbol-plus you must have test(not to beat a dead horse)keep some nolva handy, you start feeling itchy nips or any kind of sweeling take some-or clomid or liqiudex or letro-no reason at all not to have some of that around throughout any cycle-too many available anti-e's today to get gyno.

Simple 2nd cycle:

wks 1-4: D-bol 35mg/day
wks 1-15: Test E 500mg
wks 1-14: EQ(my preference) or Deca 400mg
wks 1-20: Nolva 20mg/day (keep extra on hand since you believe your gyno-prone and if u feel sore nips, bump it to 60 or 80 till it subsides)
wks 1-20: L-dex .25mg/day
wks 17-20 Clomid (starts 2 weeks after last test shot, likely a Thursday)

If you haven't got your gear yet, go with the EQ instead of Deca. Only bi-weekly shots, nothin 2 worry about.

bro if you dont have test with deca and winny you dick is not going to ork for month.
if you have done a cycle befor you would know that 2 shoots a weeks is not big deal.