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    Ladies Man is offline Junior Member
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    Second cycle inquiry

    hi bros...i am thinking about my second cycle i am not sure though, what do u guys think:

    deca weeks 1-10 (300 mg per week)
    winstrol weeks 5-10 (50 mg eod)
    d-bol weeks 1-4 (30 mg/day weeks 1-2)
    (35 mg/day weeks 2-4)

    .....and of course proper pct.
    Now i know best way to use deca would be with some test compound but the thing is i dont wanna stick myself so much, plus i got a mild case of gyno from my last cycle (puffy and pointier nipples). Last cycle i used high dose of test. Thank u all in advance and appreciate all the support. This website is the best...

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    why don't you add 400mg test and run some letro 2 weeks b4 your cycle all the way up to pct?

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    Add some Test and put it in the same syringe as the Deca , still the same number of shots then. No Test = No Cycle

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    You dont wanna add test because of the twice a week injections!?! Thats ridiculous. Did you run an anti e with your last cycle? You know deca causes progestrone gyno which is worse then gyno from test... and I didnt see any mention of an anti e for deca.? Winny needs to be taking ED, actually every 12 hours to be best. You need to do a little more research bro

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    so u dont think d bol wont be a sub substitute for the test?

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    oh yeah deca dick... have fun with that. NO DBOL will only lower test levels MORE!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladies Man
    so u dont think d bol wont be a sub substitute for the test?
    No..

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    You need to get educated bro. Read thses threads and then come back Newbies Starter Pack

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    listen to what these people say, you should definitely use test. You said you ran a high dose of test on your first cycle, what do you consider is a high dose? Did you use any anti e's?

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    there is NO substitute for test

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    No deca and whinny at once IMO-why try and get ripped up when you are getting big and puffy from deca and dbol -plus you must have test(not to beat a dead horse)keep some nolva handy, you start feeling itchy nips or any kind of sweeling take some-or clomid or liqiudex or letro-no reason at all not to have some of that around throughout any cycle-too many available anti-e's today to get gyno.

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    CrispyHaole is offline Associate Member
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    Simple 2nd cycle:

    wks 1-4: D-bol 35mg/day
    wks 1-15: Test E 500mg
    wks 1-14: EQ(my preference) or Deca 400mg
    wks 1-20: Nolva 20mg/day (keep extra on hand since you believe your gyno-prone and if u feel sore nips, bump it to 60 or 80 till it subsides)
    wks 1-20: L-dex .25mg/day
    wks 17-20 Clomid (starts 2 weeks after last test shot, likely a Thursday)

    If you haven't got your gear yet, go with the EQ instead of Deca. Only bi-weekly shots, nothin 2 worry about.

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    bro if you dont have test with deca and winny you dick is not going to ork for month.
    if you have done a cycle befor you would know that 2 shoots a weeks is not big deal.

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