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    6 month cycle Please! review

    I don't plan later in life to be on for life. But I believe that this cycle will give me all the that I want. Out of this cylce I'm looking for mass , strenght and to reach my goal of 270 by time turkey time rolls around. This is what I am planning.

    500mg of test e a week for the first 3months
    750mg-1000mg test e a weeks for the last 2months
    150mg of test p ed for the last month to help cut just alittle.
    50-100mg of drol ed for 4-6 weeks to jumpstart test e
    hgh 6iu's ed throughout the cycle started 1.5 months ago.
    And I might throw in tbol around the 18th week at 80mg ed.
    hcg 250iu's ed for the last 2-3 weeks of cycle.
    .5mg of armidex ed up untill pct and when I raise the test dose I will use .75mg of the dex. And if needed some nolva

    PCT I will stay on the gh but lower it to 2 iu's cause I'm adding igf-1 for 4weeks at 60mcg's ed. Also the usual trib at 6grams a day and 100mg of clomid a day. And I might dbol in the morning thing to help with recover, the whole pct will be about 5 weeks.

    What do you think joevette, BDTR, anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky B
    I don't plan later in life to be on for life. But I believe that this cycle will give me all the that I want. Out of this cylce I'm looking for mass , strenght and to reach my goal of 270 by time turkey time rolls around. This is what I am planning.

    500mg of test e a week for the first 3months
    750mg-1000mg test e a weeks for the last 2months
    150mg of test p ed for the last month to help cut just alittle.
    50-100mg of drol ed for 4-6 weeks to jumpstart test e
    hgh 6iu's ed throughout the cycle started 1.5 months ago.
    And I might throw in tbol around the 18th week at 80mg ed.
    hcg 250iu's ed for the last 2-3 weeks of cycle.
    .5mg of armidex ed up untill pct and when I raise the test dose I will use .75mg of the dex. And if needed some nolva

    PCT I will stay on the gh but lower it to 2 iu's cause I'm adding igf-1 for 4weeks at 60mcg's ed. Also the usual trib at 6grams a day and 100mg of clomid a day. And I might dbol in the morning thing to help with recover, the whole pct will be about 5 weeks.

    What do you think joevette, BDTR, anyone.

    i thik you should run the test e 750 mg throw the cycle.
    drol i would run 100mg for the first 4 weeks.
    i would start the hgh from day one 6ui 5 days 2 off
    hcg i would run on the last 6 and 4 week 500ui eod

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    i thik you should run the test e 750 mg throw the cycle.
    drol i would run 100mg for the first 4 weeks.
    i would start the hgh from day one 6ui 5 days 2 off
    hcg i would run on the last 6 and 4 week 500ui eod
    I know its better to start the gh at least 2months before the cycle so when the cyle starts your igf-1 levels are well above normal. And i will take your advice on the hcg and the drol. Anyone else.

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    this is a real complex cycle i would l like to see what the mods have to say. see if you can get them to look at it also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    this is a real complex cycle i would l like to see what the mods have to say. see if you can get them to look at it also.
    Yea hopefully they will GRACE my cycle with there input.

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    Lower your L-dex and use nolva, it will help with lipids. IMO you should add a long ester compound.... all it is, is a long test cycle with an oral to kick and some GH. due to the length Id toss in some EQ, plus it will help with joint lube.
    Id start HCG 6 weeks before you stop, and use 500iu E4D.
    Use 2-3g of trib in the cycle, and 5g in PCT.
    And IMO Id PCT for 6 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
    Lower your L-dex and use nolva, it will help with lipids. IMO you should add a long ester compound.... all it is, is a long test cycle with an oral to kick and some GH. due to the length Id toss in some EQ, plus it will help with joint lube.
    Id start HCG 6 weeks before you stop, and use 500iu E4D.
    Use 2-3g of trib in the cycle, and 5g in PCT.
    And IMO Id PCT for 6 weeks
    Yeah I was thinking of using deca at a very low dose just for joint help like 100-200mg a week, is that an okay dose have not used it before. And I am using test e its a long ester so what do you mean and I like to us dex because keeps me dryer then nolva in my experiances.

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    What's your bodyfat? Good luck hitting 270 with any relative leanness with only 750 test and a little anadrol .

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    Will get down to about 12% before starting cycle and thats why I'm going to use tbol and test prop. Well if you don't think 750mg is enough then maybe I'll go with the gram of test.

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    what do u weigh now?

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    I weigh between 240-245 and will be around 230-235 before starting cycle.

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    What were your previous cycles?

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    My last was
    test prop 100mg ed for 10weeks
    anavar 40mg ed for the 10weeks just a simple cutter.

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    Well I'll give you my honest opinion. If you really want to put on 30+ lbs of quality size in 6 months, you're going to have to use a lot more than what you have planned. I'd do something like this:

    First 12 Weeks:

    1500 Test
    75-100/day Tren
    150-200/day Drol (6-8 weeks)


    Last 12 Weeks:

    2000 Test
    100-150/day Tren
    100/day Dbol (6-8 weeks)

    Run ldex at 1-2 mgs/day throughout.

    And even if you do all that you're not going to gain 30 lbs of LBM. That's impossible for 6 months. Hell that's impossible for 12 months unless it's your first year juicing and you really crank the doses and have great genetics.

    But if you do it right that should net you 10-15 lbs of actual muscle.

    Hey, I'm just telling you how it is. As a bigger guy myself, I can tell you that as you grow in size, your gains will slow to a crawl unless you keep upping the doses and food. 270 at around 12% bf is big and it ain't gonna happen on 750 test.


    Edit: I didn't say anything about the gh because I have no experience with that yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmeat
    Well I'll give you my honest opinion. If you really want to put on 30+ lbs of quality size in 6 months, you're going to have to use a lot more than what you have planned. I'd do something like this:

    First 12 Weeks:

    1500 Test
    75-100/day Tren
    150-200/day Drol (6-8 weeks)


    Last 12 Weeks:

    2000 Test
    100-150/day Tren
    100/day Dbol (6-8 weeks)

    Run ldex at 1-2 mgs/day throughout.

    And even if you do all that you're not going to gain 30 lbs of LBM. That's impossible for 6 months. Hell that's impossible for 12 months unless it's your first year juicing and you really crank the doses and have great genetics.

    But if you do it right that should net you 10-15 lbs of actual muscle.

    Hey, I'm just telling you how it is. As a bigger guy myself, I can tell you that as you grow in size, your gains will slow to a crawl unless you keep upping the doses and food. 270 at around 12% bf is big and it ain't gonna happen on 750 test.


    Edit: I didn't say anything about the gh because I have no experience with that yet.
    Using gh and igf-1 in your makes a world of differance in gaining and keeping gains. I will agree that I might need more juice so this what I will do I will start with 750mg for the first half and for the second half I will use 1.25 grams and every 4 weeks I will throw in dbol at 50mg ed. 30 Lbs with that much test and the use of gh and igf-1 is not impossiable. And armidex dose will start at .75mg and then be raised to 1.5mg when I raise the test dose.
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    It is possible to gain 30lbs in 6 months with your planned cycle, but it won't be all muscle. I'm not sure if you're ready for what redmeat has proposed, but aside from the orals (I don't like really long, high dosed oral runs) it looks closer to what you'll need. I would definatly throw in a nice dose of tren , and consider using insulin to get the most muscle growth from your HGH.

    Really, we need to hear your previous cycles to judge what you need to do.

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