New Cycle Question

I am ready to try my first cycle. I don't want to gain a ton of mass but instead want to get good strength gains and some good definition. I want to know how this cycle looks because I need to know how much of everything I'm going to need to buy.

It would be an 8 week cycle possibly followed by Clen for a couple weeks:
200mg Winstrol Depot a week
200mg Primobolan a week
250mg Sustenon a week

So hows it look? Anything else I would need to know? Would I need an HCG? How about an anti-est?
Thanks for your help!

I wouldn't run a cycle that short. Also, you better get some pct goods or your gains will all go away when your off. Remember, without pct your wasting your money and pokes in the butt and hcg isn't going to cut it.

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Originally Posted by roidattack

I wouldn't run a cycle that short. Also, you better get some pct goods or your gains will all go away when your off. Remember, without pct your wasting your money and pokes in the butt and hcg isn't going to cut it.

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Aren't pct and hcg the same thing?

NO pct is post cycle therapy. PCT usually consist of clomid and nolva. DO NOT use HCG with clomid. I suggest you research some more.

I would run extend that cycle out to atleast 10 weeks and drop the primo

wk 1-10 Sust 150mg EOD
wk 8-13 Winny 50mg ED

nolva 10mg ED
PCT 3 weeks after last sust shot
You dont need HCG

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Originally Posted by Consistency

..... and drop the primo

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Why drop the primo?

any other suggestions?

I agree with Consistency on this one. Follow his cycle advice dont run your gear like you had it set up.

I think you should raise the testosterone alittle and not use sustenon maybe enanthate. If you can afford to buy primobolan I think you should go for it.

the idea of extending you cycle to 13 weeks is a good one.

I'm just wondering whats wrong with primobolan? I appreciate all the help so far and will stick with the suggestions I just want to know why no primo.

If all you want is strenth gains, just take some var. I heard it's great for strength and has little or no side effects. Research it, although I think it's expensive as fuc

I'd run the test out farther than the winny

primo costs a lot, there are lots of fakes and it takes at least 500mg/wk to see any results. 200mg wont do anything.