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Thread: Gotta problem - Progestin Gyno!
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04-14-2005, 01:09 PM #1
Gotta problem - Progestin Gyno!
Ok bros, I've been lactating a little bit and need some advice. I am on the same cycle that caused my problem but only running test prop and var currently at the moment. Here's what the cycle looked like:
1-8 1050mg Test prop
1-8 525mg Tren Ace
13-27 500mg EQ
9-12 500mg Test prop
13-22 1.4g Test prop
13-22 700mg Tren Ace
23-now(week 29) 700mg Test prop and 560mg of var
1-pct 20mg Nolva
I ran between .6 and 2.5mg of Femera during the cycle and switched to 120mg of Proviron around week 24 when I got tired of having libido issues. I've also been runnning slin, IGF-1 LR3, PGF2-A, DNP , sibutramine, T3, ECYs, and clen at various points in the cycle. I ran 200mg of B6 since day 1 split into two doses.
During the tren runs I didn't have any lactation problems and only started within the last 1.5 weeks (about 5 weeks after my last shot of tren ace!). I may have been having problems all along and just didn't squeeze my nips hard enough to find out there was a problem. Once I noticed the problem I bumped the B6 up to 800mg a day and ordered some Dostinex which I'm still working on getting. I don't have any lumps under my nipples and they aren't sore or itchy at all. They look and feel the same as ever, they just get a few drops on them if I squeeze 'em hard. Any thoughts on what I should do?
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04-14-2005, 01:14 PM #2
back the b-6 off a bit. Do not go over 600mg and stay at 200 if you can, run more femara/letro as I think that will help also. You have a pm.
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04-14-2005, 01:14 PM #3Senior Member
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I'm not even going to read what you wrote... the dostinex is supposed to be your best bet. All you can do now is get it as fast as you can, since I noticed you have some on the way.
Oh, and 27 weeks is quite a long time... but it's all up to you. I can't even call my opinion 2 cents... LOL
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04-14-2005, 01:32 PM #4Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
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04-14-2005, 01:44 PM #5Originally Posted by joevette
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04-14-2005, 01:46 PM #6Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
meso, nice location. judging by saluu you may not want to be in his sister... although she might not have dbol bloat like him
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04-14-2005, 01:52 PM #7Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
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04-14-2005, 02:01 PM #8
To be honest, I don't know if that would be the best course of action or not... Bump for anyone that has frontloaded femara.
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04-14-2005, 02:30 PM #9
So, is progestin gyno a big deal? I mean it doesn't cause any type of breast growth, correct? So, as long as I don't have estrogen gyno my only problem is a little milk? Does that sound right? I know progestin gyno is mediated by estrogen to a degree, but it doesn't work the other way around does it?
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04-14-2005, 02:46 PM #10Originally Posted by joevette
IMO, drop b-6 to 200mg get some vitex and take as directed starting tonight. Start letro up asap, but am not sure about frontload. maybe do 1.25ed for 2 weeks before droping the proviron and then lower the letro to .5mg When you get the dostinex in take .5mg first two doses and then re-evaluate if you need letro and finish off with .25mg dostinex throughout pct.
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04-14-2005, 04:49 PM #11
I'm begining to wonder if my libido problems on cycle were due to an increase in prolactin and not because of the Letro. Also, I've read that both letro and proviron are supposed to block progestin to a degree, so I don't know. The libido problems weren't very major, just had a problem sustaining a solid hard-on a couple of times, but it did seem like the problem was directly related to my letro dosage. So, I'm kinda on the fence about the whole issue.
Last edited by joevette; 04-14-2005 at 04:53 PM.
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04-14-2005, 05:35 PM #12
how long have you been off the letro and when did the problem arise?
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04-14-2005, 06:00 PM #13
Been off letro for about 6 weeks and I noticed the problem about 1.5 weeks ago. I took 1.25mg of letro a few hours ago, BTW.
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04-14-2005, 06:05 PM #14Originally Posted by joevette
Can't really add anything else. I'd just stick with the dostinex, b6, and letro for a while.
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04-14-2005, 06:08 PM #15
Joe you do know you can get Dost at PNP yes?
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04-14-2005, 06:32 PM #16Originally Posted by mark956101957
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04-16-2005, 01:28 PM #17
Ok update: Today was a big mail day. I got a couple of dostinex pills from my bro, [email protected]/ml of dostinex from pnp, and 4mg of IGF-1 LR3. So, I took 1mg of dostinex to get things rolling. I'll keep you all updated as to how it turns out.
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04-16-2005, 03:41 PM #18Originally Posted by joevette
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04-16-2005, 04:10 PM #19
be careful with the b6 bro..i know its only a vit but anything over 200mg isnt good and does have toxic effects...dont matter if you are taking 1000mg if your body can only break down and use 200mg or so effeciently.
more is not better here
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04-16-2005, 05:14 PM #20Originally Posted by joevette
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04-16-2005, 05:17 PM #21Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
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04-16-2005, 05:22 PM #22Originally Posted by joevette
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