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    help with VAR cycle please.....

    Firstly Im going to be doing my second cycle in a months time.

    age 23
    weight 195lbs
    BF approx 12%
    height 5'10"
    Arms 18"
    waist 30"
    anything else ?!??
    OH - and I plan on dropping my BF to single digits, while also increasing as much muscle mass as possible - especially LBM. Vascularity and strength would also be good to go up !

    I plan on doing this cycle -

    wk 1-10 Test Prop @ 150mg EOD
    wk 6 BD VAR @ 20mg ED
    wk 7-10 BD VAR @ 30mg ED

    Plus all protection and pct after etc,

    The reason why my VAR is being done like that is, I buy a bottle of 100 x 10mg BD Tabs for £160. So I am getting ONE bottle. So thats why my dose is as it is. Ideally - I would use the VAR @40mg ED for wk 3-10, but cant afford that !!

    If there are better ways to space out my VAR etc, then please inform me.

    Also, one more thing. I have some DBOL left from previous cycle. Can I include this into it somewhere as a little booster like at the beeginning or something ? If so, at what dose ?

    thanks again guys!

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    make it 8 weeks of 40 mg var

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    i knew someone would have to reply with that ! I am already spending £360 on this cycle which doesnt include PCT - who is gonna spend more than that for 10 weeks ?!

    NOT ME

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    so anyone got some more informative criticism please ??

    would appreciate any help.

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    bd stuff is too expensive, get some liquid var, it s 50% of the price and 3x the amount

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    All I can get is La Pharma, italy, VAR for £55 for 50tabs of 5mg

    OR

    BD VAR @ £160 for 100tabs of 10mg !

    Thats it, no liquid var available. And the BD VAR works out a lot cheaper anyway.............

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    wots better longer cycle of VAR at a lower dose OR a shorter cycle at higher dose ??

    In terms of noticible and keepable gains?

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    bump - why does it seem noone replies to my posts ???

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    why did you discredit what XXX said instaed oif running the var 20 mg for six and the 30 mgs for 3 jusrt scale it back to 8 weeks at 40mg, you should have enough. he isn't telling you , that you need to get more, just suggesting a better way to run it.

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    I have 100 x 10mg tabs. That is not enough for 8 weeks @ 40mg ED ?!!
    If i did it 40mg ED I would need 224 tabs.

    Can someone understand that and try to explain what the best way is to use my 100 x 10mg tabs please.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazbo
    I have 100 x 10mg tabs. That is not enough for 8 weeks @ 40mg ED ?!!
    If i did it 40mg ED I would need 224 tabs.

    Can someone understand that and try to explain what the best way is to use my 100 x 10mg tabs please.

    thanks
    Get more.

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    How does "Get more" help me ?!?!!!

    My cycle is currently £360 without any PCT stuff. I am not going to spend nearly £500 on a cycle. Not only can I not afford it, but my wife would never let me spend that amount ?!!! And thats fair enough I think. My order is placed and I am getting 100 x 10mg BD VAR - period.

    I tried to give all the info I could think would be needed yet noone has gave me a proper answer yet, so what am I doing wrong ??

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    So how much do you normally spend on a cycle of 10 weeks anyway ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazbo
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    get more var or don't run it at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_mike
    get more var or don't run it at all

    I kind of agree IMO. Var is pretty expensive, which is why some people stray away from it...but doing a short cycle at a low dose is just a waste of perfectly good money and var, as well as your time. I don't really know how effective (or inneffective) such a low dose will be, but if you're short on money, it's pretty risky testing the waters. Maybe you could do a prop only cycle now, and chisle up with a with another var cycle down the road----keep what var you're getting through the mail, and don't cycle it until you can afford to get more and wait for a new cycle.

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    I've been reading your posts and i agree with you, i don't think you've gotten a straight answer. It's either get more or don't do it. My opinion would be if you only have 100 x 10mg, you can run it for 25 days at 40mg ED. It's said that results can be seen within the first few days so, if you really want to run it go for it. 25 days should be fine to see some results. They might not be as great as running it for 8 weeks but you will see some results. Thats just my opinion and good luck with everything. Hopefully, you'll be able to use this info in some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intalex81
    I've been reading your posts and i agree with you, i don't think you've gotten a straight answer. It's either get more or don't do it. My opinion would be if you only have 100 x 10mg, you can run it for 25 days at 40mg ED. It's said that results can be seen within the first few days so, if you really want to run it go for it. 25 days should be fine to see some results. They might not be as great as running it for 8 weeks but you will see some results. Thats just my opinion and good luck with everything. Hopefully, you'll be able to use this info in some way.

    I completely disagree. Women use 15 mg/day...at this rate...depending on his body weight...25 mg will not do much for anyone...as it is very mild. Good results should be obtained starting at about 40 mg on up...75-80 is the maximum one would want to use to really test the waters. 25 is a complete waste for a male. To top it off...he is only planning on running the var for 5 weeks!!! minimum is 6 for good results...and he's not even using 40 mg! It's a waste!
    Last edited by big_mike; 04-15-2005 at 08:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_mike
    I completely disagree. Women use 15 mg/day...at this rate...depending on his body weight...25 mg will not do much for anyone...as it is very mild. Good results should be obtained starting at about 40 mg on up...75-80 is the maximum one would want to use to really test the waters. 25 is a complete waste for a male. To top it off...he is only planning on running the var for 5 weeks!!! minimum is 6 for good results...and he's not even using 40 mg! It's a waste!
    Exactly var is very mild. Anything under 40mg is a waste of time and money.

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    u need more var to make it worth while bro... if u cant afford it then dont do it, its a waste if u do that low of a dose. do this:

    wks 1-10 prop 75mg/ed
    wks 2-10 var 50mg/ed
    10mg/nolva thruout cycle
    pct....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tycin
    wks 1-10 prop 75mg/ed
    wks 2-10 var 50mg/ed
    10mg/nolva thruout cycle
    pct....
    My top choice for a cutting cycle right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YounG_SluG11
    My top choice for a cutting cycle right there.
    me too, add in some lr3 and gh and ur set

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    Quote Originally Posted by tycin
    me too, add in some lr3 and gh and ur set
    Thats all you bro.

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    Right OK Im hearing what y'all saying. So, I THINK, I may risk buying some more VAR at a cheaper price from a source I have on the net which Im pretty sure is valid. But I would rather not have to risk it etc. I dont fully understand how to go about paying with western money transfer and all that, not familiar with it.

    Thanks

    Darren

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazbo
    Right OK Im hearing what y'all saying. So, I THINK, I may risk buying some more VAR at a cheaper price from a source I have on the net which Im pretty sure is valid. But I would rather not have to risk it etc. I dont fully understand how to go about paying with western money transfer and all that, not familiar with it.

    Thanks

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    western union is easy bro, here they are all over. money marts have western unions in them, all u gotta do is get the recievers name and info from hiim and go tell them u wanna send money to a friend. u fill out a form and ur done, money gets there in a couple min.

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    no western money transfer places in the UK tho. I could do it online and send money that way if possible ?? on the western money website ?

    thanks

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    ya u can do it online www.westernunion.com

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