Why would anyone not want to run test in their cycle?

**lzicc** · 04-19-2005, 07:05 PM

Every cycle I do is test based with other roids added.

Why are the reasons some people don't want to add test to their cycle? Is it the sides maybe that some people get?

The first cycle I did was test/deca and now I am addicted to test. It makes me feel great when on. I could not imagine ever running a cycle without a good dose of test.

The gains, the way it makes you feel, the energy, aggressiveness, plus it's cheap and easy to obtain. If it was safe to do, I would run it the rest of my life without ever coming off.

Just wanted to know if I am missing something here.

**Thegr8One** · 04-19-2005, 07:07 PM

some ppl seem to think it is bad for them

**Blown_SC** · 04-19-2005, 07:09 PM

Some people feel that running a compound such as Anavar would be easier on their HPTA, until the time comes that they feel more comfortable running a form of Test.

**BlInDsIdE** · 04-19-2005, 07:13 PM

agreed, really the only reason I might stray from test would be because I get shut down BIG time talking like freakin peanut balls but then again that comes with the territory. I love test but boy do i hate my balls gettin that small lol.

**Blown_SC** · 04-19-2005, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by BlInDsIdE

agreed, really the only reason I might stray from test would be because I get shut down BIG time talking like freakin peanut balls but then again that comes with the territory. I love test but boy do i hate my balls gettin that small lol.

Have you ran HCG during your cycles? If not, read up on some of SWALE's work...

**SYRIANSTALLION** · 04-19-2005, 07:20 PM

casue they want to use orals only and are arfaid of needles
this the #1 reason.

Originally Posted by lzicc

Every cycle I do is test based with other roids added.

Why are the reasons some people don't want to add test to their cycle? Is it the sides maybe that some people get?

The first cycle I did was test/deca and now I am addicted to test. It makes me feel great when on. I could not imagine ever running a cycle without a good dose of test.

The gains, the way it makes you feel, the energy, aggressiveness, plus it's cheap and easy to obtain. If it was safe to do, I would run it the rest of my life without ever coming off.

Just wanted to know if I am missing something here.

**longhorn814** · 04-19-2005, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by SYRIANSTALLION

casue they want to use orals only and are arfaid of needles
this the #1 reason.

agree 100%. Theyre also afraid they'll grow a pair of 34c's too

**co2boi** · 04-19-2005, 07:36 PM

I disagree. I think it's because they don't have a source and/or they are afraid to order it

**The Massacre** · 04-19-2005, 07:37 PM

For someone like myself, acne is a problem and test occurs my skin to break out.

**co2boi** · 04-19-2005, 07:41 PM

occurs?

**Juddman** · 04-19-2005, 07:42 PM

I think people afraid of test are usually not very well educated about gear and they think it will give them all the side effects that you read about it the papers...."roid rage ", acne, all that schit.

**The Massacre** · 04-19-2005, 07:44 PM

I'm not afraid nor was I ever but I do suffer from acne when it comes down to test. Last cycle I ran I only did test for 8 weeks on a 14 week cycle. Yes, it might not be ideal to most of you but I had to do what I had to do for my own.

**big_mike** · 04-19-2005, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by The Massacre

I'm not afraid nor was I ever but I do suffer from acne when it comes down to test. Last cycle I ran I only did test for 8 weeks on a 14 week cycle. Yes, it might not be ideal to most of you but I had to do what I had to do for my own.

my problem stems when my cycle is done..particularly when clomid is necessary...i start to break out on my upper back..that's about the only place...but it does get pretty bad..

**The Massacre** · 04-19-2005, 07:48 PM

I get horrifying acne all over my back. Big ass bumps no head. It's not fun!

**big_mike** · 04-19-2005, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by The Massacre

I get horrifying acne all over my back. Big ass bumps no head. It's not fun!

same problem..i still have a few almost invisible scars from my last cycle almost a year ago...it's definetely not fun..im gonna have my woman wash my upper back with some dawn and try some other stuff for my next cycle..i hate BACNE!

**Rickson** · 04-19-2005, 08:10 PM

You have to understand that for older guys there really wasn't anything to recover with so test was a real yoyo drug. Gain a lot of water weight lose it all and have a tough time recovering. It got a bad rap and some of those stories are still passed along to those uneducated in the modern SERMS and Anti-e's. I still hear this info passed on in gyms today. You younger guys have no idea how good you have it.

**topvega** · 04-19-2005, 08:39 PM

i was almost 1 of those people who was gonna run deca alone. Then thank god i found this forum, u guys straightened me out and now i m ready to run test/deca. for me it wasn't acne, or needles that made me not wanna use test, it was my lack of knowledge about "stacking". i thought that stacking was bad and way out of my league. but after all the research i did on here i can't wait to shoot that first test/deca cocktail in my ass...

**The Massacre** · 04-19-2005, 08:41 PM

Well, Consider yourself lucky!

**brutusthebull** · 04-19-2005, 09:03 PM

I think some ppl, don't want spend the extra money and want to get the most bang for there buck. But I agree with izicc I love the feeling of test and I do stay on all the time

**GOATNUTS** · 04-19-2005, 09:08 PM

no test = crap cycle imo

**brutusthebull** · 04-19-2005, 09:12 PM

I agree, test should always be first choice

**kman** · 04-19-2005, 09:27 PM

does test cause arthritis like some claim?

**alex117k** · 04-19-2005, 09:32 PM

I've done 3 cycles without testosterone . On all of them I was cutting calories to the bone, using T3, and wanted simply to prevent muscle loss; I wasn't even trying to gain an ounce of muscle. If I was trying to gain, yes, I would add test.

**redmeat** · 04-20-2005, 12:58 AM

People overthink this ****, that's why. They spend too much time online and come up with some stupid stack that they think will be the greatest thing ever. Something gay like eq/var/primo or whatever. In reality all you need to get jacked and strong is test and tren , with maybe a little dbol or anadrol for good measure.

**lzicc** · 04-20-2005, 07:03 AM

The acne issue I can understand. I get it, but not as bad as some people do.

I know that test shuts ya down, but so do most other steroids . Some shut you down worse.

**co2boi** · 04-20-2005, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by redmeat

People overthink this ****, that's why. They spend too much time online and come up with some stupid stack that they think will be the greatest thing ever. Something gay like eq/var/primo or whatever. In reality all you need to get jacked and strong is test and tren, with maybe a little dbol or anadrol for good measure.

That's right, test and tren baby

**The Baron** · 04-20-2005, 07:47 AM

Chicks usually avoid test, except the real hard-cores.

Most of the probs associated with test use in men can be avoided or lessened by the appropriate use of nolva, ldex, finasteride, etc. High test levels alone are fairly benign. It is elevated or fluctuating DHT or estrogen levels that cause most problems.