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    Dbol headaches!!!

    im suffering from headaches and therefore irritableness from dbol
    is this common?
    any reccomendations?

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    drink more water

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    It is probably the methyltestosterone you are choking down with the dbol , methyltest is a bad idea bud.

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    How many mgs are you runnin'?

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    30mg

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    pls tell me it s not an d-bol only cycle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    pls tell me it s not an d-bol only cycle...
    he is taking methyl test also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    he is taking methyl test also
    oh, good Idea that ll make him big and ripped for spring break

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    dbol and deca (200mg/ml) week

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    well make sure u drink at least a gallon of water a day and stay away from alcohol. and next time do more research on ur cycle.

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    this is by admission a mild cycle. do you think i will hit heavy sideffects? ie baldness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    oh, good Idea that ll make him big and ripped for spring break
    lmao..

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    im a newbie, wats wrong with a dbol only cycle?

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    heavy sideffects...baldness is a very light side effect, considering that d-bol is a liver toxic steroid , hard on the kidneys too, raising ur blood pressure to dangerous levels, ruining ur lipid profile, makeing a heart attack or a stroke more likely.

    and deca will shut u down meaning that u will have some time off from sex, cause ur hpta will be surpressed. oh yeah, and if u don t do cardio ur inner heart walls are going to get thicker.

    acne and baldness are the lighter side effects...

    who told u that ur cycle is a light cycle?

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    a lot of previous forum threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilgivy
    im a newbie, wats wrong with a dbol only cycle?
    d-bol=toxic garbage. all u gain u ll lose again. and it s toxic for ur liver. do more research. there are THOUSANDS of threads talking about d-bol.

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    that's a terrible cycle imo......

    your headaches could be attributed to high bp, have you had it checked?

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    no, i will do.
    more worried about hair loss though

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgun1983
    a lot of previous forum threads.
    well - not in this forum

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    dbol and deca are famous for mass....
    25 mg and 200ml is a light dose....
    or do you beg to differ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgun1983
    dbol and deca are famous for mass....
    25 mg and 200ml is a light dose....
    or do you beg to differ?
    u mean 200 mg of deca, not 200ml

    famous for mass? u mean famous for water...a lot of what u will gain will be water, not muscle mass. and the cycle is so old school, it was even old school when arnold used it

    nowaddays we know it better. more and better researches and studies, more experiences.

    deca+d-bol is a no no. as a first cacle u should have just used test - only. nuttin more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgun1983
    dbol and deca are famous for mass....
    25 mg and 200ml is a light dose....
    or do you beg to differ?
    Famous when, in 1974? Dbol/deca stacks are old school and proven to be less effective than other, better, stacks.

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    Haha xxx beat me to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgun1983
    dbol and deca are famous for mass....
    25 mg and 200ml is a light dose....
    or do you beg to differ?
    You are right but its like blowing up a balloon and then letting it go. when you go off the dbol hold onto something.

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    ah, ok. thank you for the advise.
    now can you see why i meant mild?
    can someone comment on my baldness fear?

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    yeah, I think u ll lose all ur hair





























    when u get older sorry I couldn t resist.

    deca is mild on the hair, d-bol could take it s share if u r prone to mpb

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    It will start you down the road or continue based on your disposition. Thats why all the guys in Muscle & Fitness are wearing hats and rags over their crome domes.

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    hahaha! you had me for a second!!!
    dbol 4 weeks deca 8 weeks. think ill survive?
    what do you reccomend for the next stack

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    Get some test.

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    any in particular

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    test e. btw what r ur stats?

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    ps. thanks for the advise. you guys are helpful

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    how old?

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    22 years

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    my bp is 140/90 15 min ago it was150/90 i want off dbol what is out there as effective hell i'll even take suggestions on novice stacks i am on a 200.00 budget

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    [QUOTE=i'm rick james]my bp is 140/90 15 min ago it was150/90 i want off dbol what is out there as effective hell i'll even take suggestions on novice stacks i am on a 200.00 budget[/QUOTE

    2-3 bottles of testerona 250, depending on how nice your guy is. Just quit taking the dbol until you can get the test and start over. Your're ****ing yourself with dbol only.

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    is that the suston 250 your talking about i just want to get off the dbol period but want to still get big

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    people think dbol only cycles are light cycles because you just pop a pill

    most people out there are too pussy to poke themselves

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    Pussies!!!!

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    No, sustanon is a blend of four different testosterone esters. It was a good idea but just doesn't cut it for most BB purposes. It was meant to be administered like every two or three weeks. However, we know that it actually must be shot EOD or ED. Sust is also more expensive than a single ester test, and the genuine article is packaged in 1cc single use ampules, so dosing is either inflexible or a pain in the ass, depending on whether or not you are willing to pre-load. Don't get sust for your first cycle. Get testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate ... they are pretty much interchangeable and you will not notice a difference between them. Both esters are packaged under many different brand names in many different countries, usually in either 250mg/ml or 200mg/ml strength.

    It should be obvious to you by now that you need to do a LOT more reading before you mess with gear. You also ought to wait until your own testosterone levels start to drop, in your late 20's. You are wasting what nature gave you, what is free and legal and totally safe, that does not have to be injected. It is wasted, because gear will depress your HPTA axis and your nuts will stop producing testosterone. So, a large part of the gear you take will simply be replacing the natural endogenous production that the gear stopped. Seems rather silly, doesn't it, then? Three steps forward and two steps back, unless you are busted, or get an abscess, or some other calamity befalls you just because you thought it would be cool to "do some roids".

    At your age, you are capable of making incredible gains in lean mass, and capable of developing and maintaining a hard, defined look, without gear. That is because your test is so high. If you are not making the progress that you should be making, it is because your training, nutrition, or rest are lacking. Drugs will NOT fix that problem. You must know how to eat, train, and recover, to get good results from AAS.

    I think you should chalk up your bad experience as, well, a bad experience, and let it go at that. Make it a learning experience. Meanwhile, do your research, and stay on top of new developments. By the time you are ready to get the biggest bang for your buck, you will be pretty dern knowledgeable.

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