Deca Cycle

[dirtymike]

I am 180lbs, 24 years old and I'm doing my second cycle. My first was an all winny cycle which I was loving until I slightly tore my bicep muscle and actually ended up with a little bit of gyno a few months after I stopped. Nolvadex cleared that right up, thank god. This time I'm looking for a real clean cycle that is easy on my nips and my hairline most importantly. I picked up 10 of the 2ml 100mg Greek Decas. My only problem is deciding how much to do per week. I will have clomid and nolvadex on hand but I'm looking for the least in side effects. By the way I naturally have great genetics and noticed alot just from doing 150mg of winny per week. I'm just reall paranoid about hairloss. Also don't want to get a limp dick either. Any suggestions???

How does this look?

week 1 200mg
2 200mg
3 400mg
4 400mg
5 400mg
6 200mg
7 200mg

[RA]

Get some test.

[lucabratzi]

if ur afraid of gettin a limp dick then u should get some test. in the cycle. deca only will make it harder on gettin it up. type in 1st cycle on the search thing.

[dirtymike]

I'm not looking to get huge or looking for side effects. I read in the steroid profiles that a novice can see good results from just 200mg of deca a week. Also says 2mg per body weight, which would be 360mg per week.

[dirtymike]

How bout some viagra

[RUballs0514]

save the deca and run a test cycle. long ester like E or cyp. don't pyramid either, keep the doses consistent.

[RA]

Its a waste of time w/out test.

[dirtymike]

At what doses does deca start effecting your dick?

[RUballs0514]

deca can shut down your hpta even in small doses

[longhorn814]

At what doses does deca start effecting your dick?

as little as 100mg/wk. Get test

[dgthekid]

long as u dont care about deca dick. take like 400mg a week all the way through. ul probly still get good gains

[RUballs0514]

long as u dont care about deca dick. take like 400mg a week all the way through. ul probly still get good gains

don't listen to this, bad advice

[dgthekid]

dude i put test in all my cycles but if some people dont react good to test like bacne etc. then why wouldnt deca work by itself? or along with eq or something. all i ever see is test test test, but i no plenty of people who ran cycles without test n got good retainable gains. i personally believe test to b the first compound in all cycles but im just sayin

[RA]

dude i put test in all my cycles but if some people dont react good to test like bacne etc. then why wouldnt deca work by itself? or along with eq or something. all i ever see is test test test, but i no plenty of people who ran cycles without test n got good retainable gains. i personally believe test to b the first compound in all cycles but im just sayin

He will gain about 5lbs. Just do a double whopper eod for a week, it would be cheaper.

[ElWrighty]

Never take stuff like deca by its self Bro' u should always make test the core of your cycle IMO

[RUballs0514]

no test = no cycle

[The Massacre]

Please get yourself some Test and run it higher then any Deca dosage. You don't have to pyramid as its the way of the past.

[BlInDsIdE]

deca only is a horrible horrible idea and dgthekid- don't give advice if you don't know what your talking about no way in hell should you take deca alone.

[dirtymike]

Is Deca alone bad as far gains or just the possibility of deca dick? I'm not looking to get huge. I gained about 8 solid pounds doing an all winny cycle. So I thought I could gain another 8 on Deca. Is that a good posssibility?

I understand if I ran test I would gain more and not have any dick problems but I just don't want to deal with the side effects, hair loss, acne, etc.

[dgthekid]

blindside if the kid is gonna do a deca only cylce thats on him. imnot sayin go ahead n do it an encouraging it, but if he does do it its not gonna be the end of the world, n he might like the results he gets. n i do no wat im talkin about

[BIG TEXAN]

Either do a test only cycle or add test with the deca

500mg test e wk
400mg deca wk

In the past I have done deca by itself when nothing else was available just help with joint pain and let me tell ya..... the Mrs's was very upset with me.

[RA]

Either do a test only cycle or add test with the deca

500mg test e wk
400mg deca wk

In the past I have done deca by itself when nothing else was available just help with joint pain and let me tell ya..... the Mrs's was very upset with me.

what were your gains like?

[longhorn814]

Is Deca alone bad as far gains or just the possibility of deca dick? I'm not looking to get huge. I gained about 8 solid pounds doing an all winny cycle. So I thought I could gain another 8 on Deca. Is that a good posssibility?

I understand if I ran test I would gain more and not have any dick problems but I just don't want to deal with the side effects, hair loss, acne, etc.

you could easily gain 8 lbs just by eating more calories! I would say sides from deca alone are worse than test alone. Sides from test are no where near as bad as you think.

Here's a good read about deca:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=131230

[GetBiggg]

I just finished my 3rd week of
weeks 1-11 570mg Test E ew
weeks 1-10 400mg Deca ew
weeks 8-13
clomid at end of winny tabs
10mg Novla ED
it's my first injectable cycle.
i'm loving it, i'm up about 13 pounds - no noticable water retention, just feel a lot bigger, and stronger...
not sure if that's placebo effect. But i'm up about 3 reps on my 225 bench from last week alone.

anyways, might want to give that cycle a thought.. I did a lot of research and talked to some good people about it...

[dirtymike]

Gaining 8 pounds by increasing my calories is almost impossible for me. I have a very hard time gaining weight. How does test have less side effects than deca ?

[RA]

Deca =limp johnson. Test=ability to **ck like a dog 7 days a week. That would be enough for me.

[clhp20]

Gaining 8 pounds by increasing my calories is almost impossible for me. I have a very hard time gaining weight. How does test have less side effects than deca?

A Deca only cycle is not a good choice. It has been done, it probably will continue to get done, All we are saying to you is that Deca only cycles are bad if you want to have sex. The old method was Deca, BB's all around the world now know that Test of some sort is a better base for any cycle.


The reasoning behind everyone telling you that you need Test, is because if you want to have a sex drive, use Test... The testosterone in your body while on a Deca only cycle will reduce your natural test levels to almost nothing. By adding the Test E, you get it back. although your natural test levels are low, The Test E will in affect tell your body you have a buttload in your system, so it doesn't need to make anymore.

Deca only will tell you hey, i don't have any juice in my straw. Depression is of greater risk, Estrogen overload, not to mention the pct phase is a real bytch...

Plain and simple... Use Test in your cycle, even if you want to use Deca. If you want to use low doseages you can, Not really advisable to go lower then 400 on the Deca,(imo) i have seen lower. Perhaps you could try Test 400mg/wk Deca 300mg/wk. Fairly low dosages, Good gains all around.

Remember if you use Deca only, if you develop gyno, The bottle of Nolva isn't going to work that well, You will have to get something like Arimadex,Letro perhaps.


What ever you do, just be safe. Don't rush into anything. I know the feeling of the first cycle, You want to get it done and started.. Just be patient make sure everything you have is perfect.


Peace..

[web03]

If you dont really want/need to make big gains then dont take AAS. I can PROMISE you if you go to the diet forum and look up gain lean mass sticky you will put on weight if you follow it. Spend your money on food instead of gear. Its a complete different story if you want to put on a considerable amt of mass. just my .02.

web

[Booz]

no test bad idea listen to most of the abouve!

[Meso]

A friend of mine ran deca300 for only 4wks /1 shot a week! He got excelent gains, the only sides he got was a little bloating. It's been about 3 months since he did that, and kept about 75% of what he gained. He was'nt even able to workout or keep up with his diet for 2 of those 3 mo. no pct either.

I'm not suggesting it by any means, but everyone is different.
By all means though you should add test, in a higher dose than the deca .

WARNING the above experience is a perfect example of an uneducated cycle.Imho he just got lucky.

[taiboxa]

A friend of mine ran deca300 for only 4wks /1 shot a week! He got excelent gains, the only sides he got was a little bloating. It's been about 3 months since he did that, and kept about 75% of what he gained. He was'nt even able to workout or keep up with his diet for 2 of those 3 mo. no pct either.

I'm not suggesting it by any means, but everyone is different.
By all means though you should add test, in a higher dose than the deca .

WARNING the above experience is a perfect example of an uneducated cycle.Imho he just got lucky.

im not seeing.. much happening in 4 weeks.. but thats just me.

[Meso]

I didn't think so either but I'd guess 10-15lbs. and thats conservative.
he planned on running it for 8wks. (not much better) but got thrown in the slammer before he could fininsh.

[taiboxa]

love that bloat i kan do that weight w/ creatine...

[dirtymike]

I'm all confused I just did my first shot of deca yesterday (200 mg) I don't want to rush into anything but I'm going to Vegas Memorial Day weekend.

[getbigquick]

no test no cycle simple as that i think

[spywizard]

deca only cycle?? bad move...

and why would you ramp it up and down?? bad move....

say good by to your woodie... and hello to a swollen body

[The OutLord]

DECKA DICK??????? WHAT DOS THAT MEN !!!! = NO **** whit OUT VIAGAR!!!!! ??

Upp and down effekt!!! ??

[taiboxa]

DECKA DICK??????? WHAT DOS THAT MEN !!!! = NO **** whit OUT VIAGAR!!!!! ??

Upp and down effekt!!! ??

aww yes grammar is not your strong point
means no errection?

[The OutLord]

aww yes grammar is not your strong point
means no errection?

he he he.. ok.. grammar is not your strong point
that is true... he he he lol lol..

[dirtymike]

Longhorn I read the deca thread. Great info

What are my options for a low dosage/ clean cycle? Side effects are my biggest concerns.