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    Proviron, Tamoxifin and Clomid, which and why?

    Clomid, Proviron or Tamoxifin... which is better during a cycle?


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    I use proviron 50 mg ed , less waterretention. If you get gyno you should use tamoxifen or thake it 10mg ed during a cycle.
    Woudn't use Clomid during a cycle , just as PCT.

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    l-dex during
    proviron during
    clomid or nolva pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by 250
    l-dex during
    proviron during
    clomid or nolva pct
    Nolva during... and for PCT...
    Clomid for PCT...

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    i would use nolva for during cycle at 20mg/ED and then clomid therapy for PCT...drop the proviron unless u cant get a hard on

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    Clomid, Proviron or Tamoxifin... which is better during a cycle?


    Thanks
    You have two types of anti-e's SERM's and AI's

    Not all SERMs work in the same way but they do all have similar characteristics that they act like estrogen in tissue and block estrogens ability to bind to tissue. Nolva is a SERM that will bind to the ER to keep estrogen from binding to that receptor site. Clomid is another type of SERM but it's ability to help with estrogen related sides like gyno are not that good if at all. Clomid is better suited for PCT to help raise LH and FSH levels. Because SERMs have the ability to mimic estrogen in tissue (like nolva does in the liver) this will help with lipid levels.

    An AI (aromatase inhibitor) will keep an adrogen (test) from coverting into estrogen. Without estrogen in the system there are almost no chances of estrogen related sides because there's no aromatizing going on.

    SERMs Most commonly used:
    Nolva (Durring cycle and PCT)
    Clomid (PCT)

    AIs most commonly used:
    Letrozole
    Proviron
    Arimidex (L-dex)
    Aromasin

    IMO it's always best to run a SERM (Nolva) and an AI durring the cycle. Durring PCT l-dex/Nolva/Clomid has been used by many to help in a fast recovery of HPTA functions.

    Anti-e's Real Names and Uses
    Aromasin = Exemestane: Breast Cancer Treatment
    Arimidex / Liquidex / L-dex = Anastrozole : Breast Cancer Treatment
    Clomid = Clomiphene Citrate : Fertility drug to make women ovulate
    Cyclofenil = Cyclofenil: A gonadal stimulant and inducer of ovulation.
    Cytadren = Aminoglutethimide: Drug used for treating Cushing's Syndrome
    Femara = Letrozole: Breast Cancer Treatment
    Nolvadex = Tamoxifen Citrate: Breast Cancer Treatment
    Proviron = Mesterolone: Used to regulate irregular testosterone levels
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    do you have to be a chemist to use this tamoxifen (nolva) from AR-R ? Can it be used just as shipped, instead of nolva, or does it have to be mixed somehow?


    sorry, newbie here

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    Your lab rat can use it just the way it is shipped . tamox = nolva

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    does my rat take it orally or do i have to inject him?

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    orally, my rat enjoys the flavor too, gooes down easy he just laps it up! Also, if you can get proviron I recommend that, keeps you nice and dry with a huge hard on

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