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    Lose your sex drive?? ... Here is the fix

    Ok.. for some of us our sex drive goes down while on large amounts of test..

    I am taking this, and for me it's the bomb... it really works..

    Cabergoline - another anti-prolactin ergot derivate

    By Serge Kreutz
    Version 1.3, May 2002

    Cabergoline (brand name: Dostinex) is a comparatively new medication used in the treatment of Parkinson's disease and prolactinomas (tumors of the pituitary gland). Because another medication used for the treatment of the same conditions, bromocriptine, can have a marked sexuality-enhancing effect if properly used, I assume that cabergoline will work in the same direction.

    Alas, in Southeast Asia were I live, cabergoline is not available, and it is also not sold via the online pharmacies I know of. If anybody who reads this article either has a supply route, or knows of one, I would very much appreciate receiving such information (or, even better, the cabergoline). My email address is:

    Cabergoline is a medication based on ergot alkaloids. Ergot, of course, is the fungal disease of rye and other grasses, and a potent neurotoxin. Ergot alkaloids heavily interfere with neurotransmitter activity. Probably the best-know ergot derivate is LSD, which strongly messes with the neurotransmitter serotonin.

    There are a good number of ergot alkaloids that are used in conventional medicine. Usually, these medications are developed for their dopaminergic capabilities. Such medications are needed to treat the severe deficiency of the neurotransmitter dopamine that leads to Parkinson's.

    The ergot alkaloid bromocriptine can be used for its sexuality enhancing properties. Actuality, of all substances I have tested on myself for their sexuality-enhancing properties, bromocriptine is among the few for which I can attest effectiveness. However, bromocriptine has to be taken in a specific manner to avoid the nausea that otherwise would overshadow its sexuality-enhancing properties. The topic is covered extensively in my articles How to use bromocriptine in the treatment of sexual dysfunction or for sexual enhancement and How does bromocriptine feel - personal experience with its use .

    It's the pharmaceutical similarity to bromocriptine, which makes cabergoline such an interesting substance. Of all dopaminergic medications used for the treatment of Parkinson's, cabergoline resembles bromocriptine the most, with its double action of enhancing dopamine levels and inhibiting the secretion of the hormone prolactin from the anterior pituitary gland.

    I am convinced that this dual action is crucial to sexual enhancement. Prolactin, the hormone, which has been named for its function of inducing lactation in women, directly interferes with sex drive in both women and men. It controls to a certain extend the secretion of gonadotropin, the hormone which, one step further down the chain, controls the secretion of testosterone in both men and women. Regardless of which hormonal constellation in this sequence is responsible for a lowered sex drive, the reversal of the sequence through drugs like bromocriptine clearly supports sexual desire.

    As sexuality is the main source of happiness for practically all forms of higher living, including man, and as utmost sexual satisfaction can only be experience as a sequence to sexual desire, it is a logical quest to provide ourselves with a better long-term hormonal profile than intended for by our genetic blueprints. Anti-sexual changes of our hormonal levels as a consequence of the aging process is an unacceptable provision, which nature, our enemy, has designed in order to install the specific generation turnover rate of humans (20 to 30 years).

    Increasing prolactin levels and, at the same time, decreasing testosterone levels are two inter-linked causes why aging men don't have as much sex drive as younger men, why they don't have orgasms as powerful as they used to have, and why they don't get as much pleasure out of their sex lives as when they were in their 20's.

    To interfere with this chain of events isn't easy. Testosterone supplementation often doesn't do the trick. Each person's body has its own genetically set ideas what the person's age-appropriate testosterone levels ought to be. Supplying additional testosterone will, in healthy subjects, just provoke the body to down-regulate its own testosterone production, as well as to initiate other measures by which the testosterone balance returns to the aforementioned genetically set levels.

    Willfully oversupplying testosterone, or supplementing with synthetic steroids is usually useless, at least for men. Women, if they don't mind the androgenic side effects (increased muscle buildup), may be able to increase desire and orgasmic capacity through both testosterone and synthetic steroid supplementation.

    But for men, forcing testosterone levels beyond the genetic set points, mainly through the supplementation with synthetic steroids, has some very counterproductive side effects. It will, for example, result in shrinkage of the male organ, as well as in problems to achieve an erection.

    The prolactin reduction pathway doesn't seem to be bedeviled in the same manner. I can attest from own experience that bromocriptine enhances sexual functionality as well as the intensity of orgasm. (Please see my articles on bromocriptine for the finer points on how to dose the drug for sexual enhancement, and how to avoid the nausea.) On the other hand, my own experimentation with the supplementation of testosterone (Andriol capsules) had no measurable effect on sexual desire at all, not immediate and not long-term.

    There is an enormous number of compounds, both herbal and synthetic, which can kill sex drive and interfere with sexual performance. There are also a good number of products, both herbal and synthetic, which are sold with the promise that they help to overcome a lack of sexual desire or so-called erectile dysfunction.

    I have been writing about pharmacological sexual enhancement for years, and I take the matter seriously. I have tried almost everything that is available under the sun, whether from below (ginseng) or above (ginkgo) the grass line, and both natural and synthetic (such as Viagra).

    While Viagra definitely works for erections, I feel that Viagra alone does not provide any kick in the desire or orgasm departments. A combination with other drugs, however, can bring out the best in Viagra.

    As I have said: I haven't been able yet to get my hands on cabergoline. But its similarity to bromocriptine has made it sound just too good not to write this article... in excited anticipation.

    From the clinical reports I have read, it seems that cabergoline offers substantial advantage over bromocriptine. For example, one tablet a week is supposed to be enough for its prolactin-inhibiting and Parkinson's disease treating effect. There also seems to be a lower incidence of side effects, mainly the causing of nausea.

    I don't believe that anybody can seriously and truthfully write about an aphrodisiac without trying it on oneself. So, when I will be able to get some cabergoline, legally or through another channel, I will try it and report my experience to the community of those interested. Until then, I invite anybody who has already experienced with the drug to send in his or her comments (and some tablets as well).
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    agreed. i was on dostinex for a while and man my drive was through the roof. mydoc had me on that test(for HRT) and gave me some cialis..... i was a pornstart in training!!!

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    Dostinex is awsome, I'm on it for the first time right now and may never stop using it.

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    is it hard to get hold off ?

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    when on cycle i always use proviron it puts my sex drive in overdrive but i may have to give dostinex a try

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa pain
    is it hard to get hold off ?

    its expensive as ****... and most sources dont carry it. i mean i was on prescriptiong so i was getting 16 .5mg pills for $15 but i saw one source selling 4 of them for $75

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    the cheapest i have found it is

    $64 for 8

    but i also found a research company that has it in liquid form.. .5mg/ml 30ml for $90..

    that's the ticket..
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    how often is it taken and how long before you felt inhanced sex drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanker
    how often is it taken and how long before you felt inhanced sex drive
    2 weeks.. .25mg per dose 2x per week..

    3wks-.... .5mg per dose 2x per week..

    dose dependant on individual..
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    i read that it does not stay stable in a liquid as it will degrade qickly and recommended to use tabs instead.

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    Why would ones sex drive go down on large amounts of test, it should be going up.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0
    Why would ones sex drive go down on large amounts of test, it should be going up.....
    cuz high doses of free test aramotize into estrogen.

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    [QUOTE=spywizard]
    but i also found a research company that has it in liquid form.. .5mg/ml 30ml for $90..
    [QUOTE]

    Yep, that's the way to go, but I went with the 50ml vial for $135, that should last quite a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunMuscle
    cuz high doses of free test aramotize into estrogen.


    What about using anti estrogens throughout a cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck89gt5.0
    What about using anti estrogens throughout a cycle?

    u need some estrogen for a sex drive. when i was taking femara it killed my sex drive. i was running 1g of test a week and didnt have much drive. but dostinex helped out real quick

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    Would this stuff work with a deca dick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondacrazy
    Would this stuff work with a deca dick?
    that's an excellent question...deca libido loss is prolactin/progesterone-related

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondacrazy
    Would this stuff work with a deca dick?
    Yes it will help.I've been using it with Fina cycles for quite some time now.PPl on these boards tout B-6.Nonsense,utter nonsense. Cabergoline is the way to go.

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    Viagra, auslanders, Viagra fur ein hart, heiss Teil

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thReichFuhrer
    Viagra, auslanders, Viagra fur ein hart, heiss Teil
    What about viagra? Does anyone on here translate Dutch?

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    Viagra foreigners, Viagra for a hard, hot cock!!!!!!!!!!!! In plain enough English for you?

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    Thanks!! I always wondered how to say "cock" in Dutch!!

    Hey, at least I know I didn't lose my sense of humor along with my ability to get a woody...

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    Mast (pronounced mahhzt) is another, more vular German word for "cock"

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