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    DuckCee is offline New Member
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    Thinking about doing a first time cycle...

    I am new to this forum and am looking for a bit of advice.
    As of now, my stats are:

    20 yrs. old
    6' 0 feet
    around 180 lbs.

    What do you all think would be an appropriate cycle for a beginner at my height and weight looking to put on about 15-20 lbs. and cut down body fat percentage. I was thinking maybe a deca /dianabol stack to bulk, but don't know how I should combine it with a cutting cycle.
    Any suggestions would be helpful.

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    test only.....nuff said......and if you want to put on 15-20lbs, expect to go up in bodyfat just a bit.....cutting is in your diet, not the gear you take........

    btw, i feel you still can get about 15+ more pounds naturally in the first place......

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    I agree...If you are wanting to put that much weight on you are going to put some fat on as well.....I would go with a healthy test/deca cycle....If it is your first time you will for sure hit that weight gain with that stack....If you keep everything else in check...(diet,sleep,training)...and of course pct

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    imo
    1-12 enth 600 mgs ew
    1-14 nolva 10 mgs ed
    1-18 l dex .25 mgs ed then again for 7 days after pct
    pct 2 weeks after last enth shot
    14-18 nolva 20 mgs ed
    14-18 clomid 100 mgs ed
    tongat ali 1 g ed
    trib 6 g's ed

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    Im am in college right now and am kind of on a budget, so I wanted to start with something relatively simple. What about sust 250. Would that be a good choice for me since it combines four test compounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckCee
    Im am in college right now and am kind of on a budget, so I wanted to start with something relatively simple. What about sust 250. Would that be a good choice for me since it combines four test compounds?

    stick w/ a long ester test.......like cypionate or enanthate .....500mg/week for 10 or 12 weeks......learn about anti-estrogens (nolvadex ) and PCT (Post Cycle Therapy )

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckCee
    Im am in college right now and am kind of on a budget, so I wanted to start with something relatively simple. What about sust 250. Would that be a good choice for me since it combines four test compounds?

    i wouldnt run sus for a first time, its eod injects, and i agreee to run a single esther test

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    Test e or cyp is good for the first several cycles, just keep bumping the dose on each subsequent cycle.

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    i would say wait. you are in college and on a budget. how are you going to afford your proper supplements and food. after a number of cycles this is easily the most expensive part. being 20 years old is fairly young to begin. i started at 20 and i feel i missed out on some natural gains. as wolfy said, you could easily put on 15 lbs naturally. why rush?

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