how will i know???????

[Random]

hey guys, starting first cycle this week--stackin dbol and sust250; how will i know if the sust is legit and its not just the dbol? i got the sust from an online pharmacy --last year i tried some of their dbol--it looks flawless but i dont think it was legit...any help is appreciated...

[FrkyBgStok]

is there a brand?

[Georgie]

yes it is organon here is a link....http://www.724ip.com/product.html ....go to sustanon 250

I'm by no means the ARR police and i'm not trying to tell anyone what to do, but i'm pretty sure you could get banned for posting a site like that, it's a source.... Just a heads up.

[Random]

yea i couldnt just post the pic--wouldnt fit....

[ACpower]

looks like pakistan organon that pic is legit have u recieved the gear yet

[Random]

yea, i have it, as far as im concerned, it looks exactly like the pic, expiration and everything, however last year when i tried the dbol it didnt do anything, i didnt gain 1 lb and i was trying 35mg a day for over 2 weeks, still taking all the supplements and training hard, no boozin either, so im pretty skeptical about the sust....

[ACpower]

how are you eating habits, and intensity in ur workouts that could effect ur gains

[newatthis]

Is the expiration date printed with black stamp or etched in with the yellow ink?

[Random]

eating and training are excellent, ive been training for about 7 years seriously now..................Expiration is printed with a black print

[newatthis]

It should be legit then. Good stuff

[ACpower]

yeah bro sounds legit GOOD LUCK

[Random]

i know that the dbol is real for sure, from a trusted supplier, however still worried about the sust--any way of knowing for sure if the gains are kickin in with the sust?

[newatthis]

MAke sure u take it EOD so it maintains in your blood, how many shots are you taking?

[Random]

well, i was planning on around every 6 days, ive heard both stories, that once a week is fine, and EOD because of the faster esters; i was just planning on every 6 days or so...

[newatthis]

No u might as well do test e if your going to do it that way. The only right way to do Sus 250 is EOD, I just got off a cycle of it and started my test e to finish.

[ACpower]

you def need to inject more then every 6 days at least 3 days a week

[Random]

the only downsides to sust once a week is a slight imbalance in test levels and slightly more side effects right? i guess i just didnt want to be injecting that much....

[newatthis]

Hey if you want it to work you have to do it right.

[Random]

i think i have 19 or 20 amps 250mg each, would i need to frontload or not, and how much would each injection be if i were injecting 3 times per week?

[newatthis]

You should inject 1 amp every other day. You should stack it with your Dbols too. 40mgs a day.

[Random]

****..thats only like 5-6 weeks then, is that long enough to see good gains?

[newatthis]

what are your measurements and what kind of gear do you have in total.

[Random]

im 5'5 200lb about 8-10% bodyfat, i have 200 dbols, and 19-20 amps of sust, along with anti-es thats it...first time user

[newatthis]

Being that it is your first time, if you can maintain eating 2500-3000 calories a day you should have no problem gaining size and strength. Make sure you have a pct like clomid or nolva. when complete.

[Random]

yep, i have those, to make the cycle last longer, do you think i should just inject every 5 days??

[newatthis]

this should be your cycle. Anyone would back me up on this:


Sustanon -250 EOD
DBOL - 40mgs

Begin pct 3 days after last shot

[Random]

youd still do that even though its only 5.5 weeks? also while discussing this, in considering that when going on steroids its advised to stay on at least 8-10 weeks for max gains, what would you say to this cycle that will only last 5.5 weeks versus an 8 weeker if i only injected once a week? thanks again for all the help...

[newatthis]

Bottom line is we are about the same measurments and here is my cycle.

250 SUS EOD 10 shots
300 Deca every 4 day 10 shots
35mgs DBOL 200 Pills

Finished that and now im starting:

250 Enathate every 4 day

CLomid once complete

[Random]

so youd opt for a shorter "burst" cylce over a longer cycle that might not be as effective?

[flash31]

That's some expensive gear!!!!!!!!!!!

[newatthis]

What kind of effects are you looking for. If the blood levels arent maintain you wont see results. This is what you do. Start a new thread telling people you measurments and cycle and how you plan to do it. You will get plenty of advice similiar to mine. But make sure you write it the way you want. Maybe im wrong. But thats how i learned and it worked out pretty good so far. Ill do it first.

[Random]

ok starting one now...thanks

[CrispyHaole]

this should be your cycle. Anyone would back me up on this:


Sustanon -250 EOD
DBOL - 40mgs

Begin pct 3 days after last shot

No frikken way does a 1st cycle need to be net 875mg/wk!!!!! Plus dbol? NO NO NO NO NO. EOD is the way to go, yes, but for a 1st cycle do 1/2 cc(125mg) eod, this nets 437.5mg/wk and is sufficient for a 1st cycle. Save the dbol for your 2nd cycle, see how you react to test 1st...

[Random]

what about every 3 or 5 days, is that sufficient?

[hardgainer1]

ordering off the internet? isnt that a bit risky? just shoot one on monday and one on friday, it'll be fine, in 4 weeks the long esters kick in and you wont have those pesky test imbalances from the 30mg prop in each one.(which isnt really a whole lot any way)

[Swifto]

yes it is organon here is a link....http://www.72###com/product.html ....go to sustanon 250

DO NOT POST SOURCES IN THE OPEN FORUM!

[perfectbeast2001]

You will know it is real when you start wanting to **** ugly women

[daos]

i thinki that site is legit though. kinda like powermedica. you must submit blood results and its classified as hormone replacement therapy.

[punchrf]

this should be your cycle. Anyone would back me up on this:


Sustanon -250 EOD
DBOL - 40mgs

Begin pct 3 days after last shot

the pct should not be started after 3 days. if it was prop yes but there is also long esters in there to that are a majority of the sustanon. i believe it is 14 days after last shot of long estered test. but not positive on that.

[ACpower]

I was told start pct 18 days after last sus shot