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    Gains from Test E and keeping them

    i going to run a first cycle of Test E 250mg for 12wks followed by PCT of clomid and trib, i got nolvadex on hand as well, i want to know what you can take during the cycle to keep the water and bloat retention down as i want to make lean gains of muscle.

    what else needs to be included for PCT apart from clomid? and to keep the gains when cycling off?
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    hmm i would up the dose to 500mg wk but thats JMHO

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    yes personally ive gotta agree with blindside 500mg test e,you will get people sayin diffrent but thats the way id go mate.run the nolvadex with clomid for pct

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    We've talked about the low dose cycles at length last night bros...
    Check this out for pct bro...
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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    yes personally ive gotta agree with blindside 500mg test e,you will get people sayin diffrent but thats the way id go mate.run the nolvadex with clomid for pct

    i know everyone says Test E to start with but i am looking for the least amount of water and bloat and to gain lean muscle mass around 12-14Ibs so would TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE be a better choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCobra
    i know everyone says Test E to start with but i am looking for the least amount of water and bloat and to gain lean muscle mass around 12-14Ibs so would TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE be a better choice?
    test prop is ok if you dont mind ed or eod injections. test e is 2x week so its easier to work with imo. use nolva to keep some water off and to help you against gyno. personally i dont gain have a lot of bloat and water while on test e.

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    hey bro asa first timer usin test prop i can tell you youd better get a painless prop or have a paintolerance through the roof it had me crippled the first week and didnt start to really feel better until week 3 but i will say the gains are absolutly excellent

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