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    Need advise on first cycle

    3 bottles of BOLD AP 200 10 ml. (equipoise 200 mg)
    3 bottles of ENANTEST AP 250 10 ml.
    1 ANABOLIC ST 100 (Estanozolol 100 MG x 20 ML)

    now i have looked around for cycle stats but cant seem to find the right mixs
    and then i was reading PCT info so if anyone can help in this matter,
    thanks

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    more info...

    u have a better chance of members giving u advice if u give a detailed breakdown of:
    your age- ht- wgt
    cycle experience
    how tight your diet is... just to list a few.... but all this does matter
    i wouldn't jump into anything until u do alot of homework. u will b glad u did in the long run

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    If this is your first cycle why don't you stick to test enan. On my first cycle I used 500mg/wk test enan and jumpstarted it for 3 wks with 350mg TP, and I made great gains.

    For PCT most guys use Clomid and frontload it, which I don't like. I just do 50mg/day for 4 weeks, but you can also use nolvadex too.

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    First cycle I would go with a test only cycle. Save the EQ for your next run..

    Weeks 1-12 500mg test every week
    weeks 1- end of PCT .25mg ldex every day
    weeks 1- end of PCT 10-20mg of nolva every day
    Depending on what test your going to take will depend on how long after your last shot you can start CLOMID (PCT)

    You could through 30mg dbol in there for the first 4 weeks as well..

    This is a good first cycle..

    GB

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    here i am 29 5'9 200lb
    my friend is on Qv bold and E i am on animale power he has ****en great gains with his cycle i just want to know with 6 bottles and 1 bottle of winnie
    what should be my cycle run so unclear and when should i take wennie for cutting
    and if i need to do a PCT what should i use

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    test is enuff, he won t need d-bols.

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    Prolly not but he could if he wanted..

    But I would not use 2 injectables on a first run...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetinBig
    Prolly not but he could if he wanted..

    But I would not use 2 injectables on a first run...
    I agree with this. that why I recommend KISS for every beginner:

    keep
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    500mg test e for 12 weeks

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    hay xxx no need for flaming there was a time when u were in the nebies shoes all i was asking for was a little insight.

    3 bottles of BOLD Animale Power 200 10 ml. (equipoise 200 mg)
    3 bottles of ENANTEST Animale Power 250 10 ml.
    1 ANABOLIC ST 100 (Estanozolol 100 MG x 20 ML)
    but i see that E is 500mg but not to shure on ccs
    and bold 400mg but not to shure on ccs
    and i want the best reasults from this but not shure how long to run and when to run the estanozolol

    im 29 5'9 212 diet will be high carbs and high protein no fat
    looking at mondays and thursdays to shoot test but not to shure on bold

    then someone was telling to do a PCT run after my cycle and i am trying to read up on PCT but there are so many products to use so this has been 2yrs that i have been thinking about gear

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    I wasn t flaming

    all this stuff isn t necessary for the first cycle. u give away a lot of potential, so why would u do that?

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    3 bottles of BOLD Animale Power 200 10 ml. (equipoise 200 mg)
    3 bottles of ENANTEST Animale Power 250 10 ml.
    1 ANABOLIC ST 100 (Estanozolol 100 MG x 20 ML)
    but i see that E is 500mg but not to shure on ccs
    and bold 400mg but not to shure on ccs

    according to what u posted if u need 400mg of bold then it's 2ccs(200mg 10ml)
    and 500mg test is 2cc's(250mg 10ml)....

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    Begin to run PCT 14days after your last test shot

    PCT

    wk 1-2 Clomid 100mg/ED
    wk 2-4 Clomid 50mg/ED
    wk 1-4 Nolvadex 20mg/ED
    wk 1-4 Tribulas 4g/ED
    wk 1-4 Creatine 5-10g/ED (depending on body weight)

    I hope this helps, good luck

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    thanks guys so dont get the winnie then and 14 weeks after cycle get pct

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