Deca Cycle

[bobio_69]

I was wondering what one should take with Deca to acheive optimum gains. My friend has never taken any steroid before, so he will probably be taking in 200mg a week, and he is also thinkin about stacking it with m1-t? He is not sure if he wants to do that, since we have heard some bad things about this combo...but what other supplement which he can buy at locally at a fitness store can he take? We cant get our hands on any more gear right now, so is there any other supplement we can take with deca, somehting which we can get our hands on easily? Thanks

[Juddman]

Its a very bad idea to take deca alone, it needs to be stacked with some form of testosterone ...The testosterone dosage needs to be higher and run longer than the deca dosage.
If he wanted to run deca at 200mgs/week, he needs to run testosterone at least at 300mgs/week. If not, he will risk being shut down completely with no source of testosterone.

[bobio_69]

this might sound a little mesed up, but hes worried that he might go infertile if he takes deca by itslef? Is there any chance of that happening, he wasnt worrying about this until he read an article of what happend to a guy when he was taking it?....and is there any form of test we can buy on the local market...we cant get our hands on the real gear, so it 1-ad ? or m1-t alrgit?

[Juddman]

If you live in the US, no chance of getting test at your local market..its illegal.
If you can get your hands on m1-t it is effective for sure...
Deca -only cycle = very bad. Look up deca-dick.

[stocky121]

this might sound a little mesed up, but hes worried that he might go infertile if he takes deca by itslef? Is there any chance of that happening, he wasnt worrying about this until he read an article of what happend to a guy when he was taking it?....and is there any form of test we can buy on the local market...we cant get our hands on the real gear, so it 1-ad ? or m1-t alrgit?

no it's not you need to get so real test eth,cyp,prop,sus even suspension

[bobio_69]

He has m1-t...do you suggest he stack that with his deca cycle? and also he is planning on taking a half cycle of deca just to see how his body reacts...does he still have to worry about the "deca dick"

[bobio_69]

so theres no chance of goin infertile if you take deca alone?

[Juddman]

He has m1-t...do you suggest he stack that with his deca cycle? and also he is planning on taking a half cycle of deca just to see how his body reacts...does he still have to worry about the "deca dick"

DECA ONLY CYCLE = BAD. Do not stack m1-t with deca. If you gonna run deca do it with an injectable testosterone , period.

[topvega]

this was exactly what i thought of doing.(deca alone) probably would of done it to if i had not found this forum...(thank god)
if u can't get ahold of anymore gear then just sit on the deca till u can...
they don't call it deca dick for no reason... u will b sorry if u do it alone...
i.e. suicidal with a limp noodle....

[Juddman]

so theres no chance of goin infertile if you take deca alone?

YES, if he can even get it up that is.

[bobio_69]

what do you guys think about fina? We have access to a cycle of fina, but are not too educated on it, so we decided to research a bit...what do you guys think about it? Side effects compared to results? Is it a better option

[topvega]

so theres no chance of goin infertile if you take deca alone?

i don't know about the infertile thing? but u won't b getting anybody pregnant if u can't get your little soldier up for battle....

[Juddman]

Test is a base of every cycle...you cant run most compounds alone without it, without risking negative sides that is. Go to steroid .com and look at the fina article.

[bobio_69]

what would be the best novice steroid cycle for a beginner to take? I have herd testosterone is the best?

[Juddman]

Between 300-500mgs of testosteron enanthate or cyp, 10 weeks....shoot it 2x a week, 3.5 days apart...10mgs of nolvadex to prevent gyno and bloat, 4 weeks of clomid therapy 2 weeks after your last shot of testosterone , pct.

[longhorn814]

fina is much more harsh than deca , Fina(tren ) shouldnt be run without test either. Definitely not commonly recommended for a first cycle. It will shut you down just as hard as deca. If you cant get some type of testosterone (M1T is NOT test), you need to wait until you can get some and make sure you do it right. If you have access to deca and tren, you should be able to find test. If not your source sucks, get a new one!!! You should read up on how steroids affect your body and your hormones and why its necessary that you take test as the base of every cycle.

[topvega]

what would be the best novice steroid cycle for a beginner to take? I have herd testosterone is the best?

u might want to start in the diet section and get your diet tight first.. looks like u have alot of research to do...
if this is your first cycle and u are over 21 yrs old, a test only cycle might b best. if u absolutely are intent on using the deca also, then run the test 100mg higher than the deca and for at least a week longer.
research pct also, because u won't keep much without proper pct...

[bobio_69]

perfect thanks a lot. I will tell him to hold off on that deca cycle! just curious tho, how much would all this stuff cost?

[topvega]

not sure anyone cld tell u that... depends on your source....
u can't cheap out on your health though so make sure u budget for pct...