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    Anti Es hindering gains ?pissed of deppressed

    how much do anti Es hinnder gains? since a gyno prob mid course and letro ,nolva ,arim being used feel deppressed big time and havent gained at all ? pissed off feel like course was a waste of time only 4 weeks in and thinking of calling it a day.

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    letro, nolva, AND arimidex ?? bro that's a lot of anti-e. You should've ran 20mg Nolvadex ed to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa pain
    how much do anti Es hinnder gains? since a gyno prob mid course and letro ,nolva ,arim being used feel deppressed big time and havent gained at all ? pissed off feel like course was a waste of time only 4 weeks in and thinking of calling it a day.

    Four weeks in on what? Some of the longer acting esthers take 4-6 weeks to take effect.

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    thought i would play it safe started .5 arim 1 week before course ,then sus mon,fri and 50mg prop weds also tren 75mg eod and yes did have b6 and t4 for the tren.
    Put 14lbs on in the first 2 weeks then an old gyno lump seemed to bother me so i started nolva 80mg ed for aweek thenletro arrived so started that at 2.5mg ed and at the mo using .5 arim ed 2.5mg letro and nolva 40mg ed ,when letro kicks in il gonna drop nolva to 20mg ed.

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    switched sus to prop now but unsure and added winstrol instead of tren thinking of running this for 3 weeks till sus is out then starting pct,sick of feeling down and worrying about gyno.

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    the sus needs to be injected EOD not Mon/Fri to keep sides to a minimum and blood levels as stable as possible,

    "50mg prop weds" what do you mean by this? you only inject on Wednesday?

    your taking to many anti-e's, just take the nolvadex 20mg/ED and arimedex .5 ED

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    might be being parranoid about the gyno but had in removed before and still a few lumps that have slowly grown back over the last 4 years,will this letro save the day .

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    know about sus eod so i switched to 125mg eod and ditched the prop weds,just did that for a week.

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    i still dont fully understand how your cycle is laid out???

    take the nolvadex 80mg/ED till your sides subside,

    I think your being a bit paranoid too, but then again its better to be safe than sorry....

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    please help guys ,need it .

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    cycle was sus tren but changed to prop winny because worried about sides.

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    ok, how long you running the prop for, also the winny? how many cycles have you done?

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