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    help not getting any gains

    curently im in week 5 of a 15 week sustanon and eq cycle, this is my first cycle, im seeing little if any gains. Im consuming over 400 grams of protein daily, limiting my fats, and sticking at about 500-600 grams of carbs. i am eating really good, 7-9 meals a day. i am 5-8, 205 pounds, about 11% bf

    Im shooting sustanon eod and eq 400mgs a week and im seeing no strenght gains and barely any size gains.... dont make sense. the gear looks legit too so im stumped.

    any comments suggestions or advice would be appreciated thanks,

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    Most gear looks legit......

    I was having similar problem with my Sus/Deca cycle but after 5 weeks my strength is up and workouts are really good..still only up 6 pounds from starting point tho...6 weeks in now

    I would give it another week at least as eq takes 4-5 to kick in I hear

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    Gear looks legit, but IS it legit? from a reputable, trusted source? What brand?

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    the eq is quality vet and the sustanon is organon karachi

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    how much time off between cycles?

    I think that is why im not seeing very good results as I took advice from friend and only took 4 weeks off after a 6 week cycle.

    All my advice is now gotten from here...

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    With EQ sometimes you have first effect after 6 weeks. For me, it's about 5 weeks and 5 weeks after my PCT i win mass again and loose fat. Eq is long to start but give quality, hardness and stable muscles ( with a good PCT - Diet of course )

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    if you r not seein any gains and your diet is in check i would seriously look at the legitimacey of the gear you r usin,are u not gettin any affects watsoever?wat about your sex drive mate?if this is your 1st cycle you should be piling on the size with a 1st cycle like that.
    how much sus r u usin?
    the eq wont start off till at least 7-8wk,but u should b seein gains from the sust.

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    Usually you can feel the sustanon working right away about a week, reason being because of the 2 types of prop. That is strange thou. How much are you taking of sustanon a week and the duration?

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    im taking 750 mgs of sustanon a week and 400 mgs of eq, i just find it weird because my source is using the same stuff i am and hes exploding, sex drive is good, not that is a bad problem but i aint seeing any of the typical sides like water retention, acne, or anything later today ill post pics of my gear and let you guys grade it

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    DOH...i need glasses too I see..1st cycle WOW..I blew up 20 pounds on 1st cycle with only 500mgs of Test E for 6 weeks...I kept 10 pounds after cycle...You should definately being seeing results with 750mgs of SUS a week

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    sounds like ur gear is bunk. post some pics then we ll know more...

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    sorry about the pic its kinda ****ty but my camera takes really clear pics and uses alotta space this is all that would fit, does this sustanon look legit? i rubbed it with wet fingers and none of the pain came off, the batch number is180321xu and experation date is 6/2009
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    need more EFA's
    GOTTA HAVE EFAs in diet drink flax all day there prob solved.

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    heres the eq it came out kinda blurry
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    ok im gonna give the efas a try as weel do u think olive oil will do the same as flax seed

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    Quote Originally Posted by diezell
    ok im gonna give the efas a try as weel do u think olive oil will do the same as flax seed
    to a lesser extent yes but get some diet help
    its the lil things that you prolly over look or havent been informed about that make the world of diff.

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    I hope that eq is good cuz thats the same I have for next cycle

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    does the stuff look good to you guys? im really starting to get fed up with it, im throwing all this money out and not getting anything outta it

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