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    blower is offline New Member
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    First cycle please help.

    This is my first cycle starting Mon. you guys recommended single esther test
    so I got Nutri-vet cyp. 250. I plan on taking 250mg on Mon and Thurs.
    I also have nolvadex 20mg a pill[white] and liquidex. Which should I take or take both I want as little water retention as possible. clomid is 50 mg pills[blue]. My stats are 5'9" 178 15% bf. Good clean diet 180-200 grams protein a day. Just benched 300 today.
    I also have Tornell Supertest 250 should I sell this or save it for the future?

    thanks.

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    250mg of test twice per week is good. Using nolva or l-dex is fine. You may want to use the nolva for it's benefits to your lipid profile, but you can experiment and see which one you prefer.

    I would definitely get your diet in check before you start. I would be shooting for 225-250 grams of protein at your bodyweight. How many calories are you taking in, or planning to?

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    Stcik witht the Test Cyp, here is a good 1st cycle:

    wk 1-12 Test E/Cyp 350-500mg/wk (2x 250mg Mon/Thurs)
    wk 1-12 Nolvadex 10mg/ED

    PCT

    wk 14-16 Clomid 100mg/ED
    wk 16-18 Clomid 50mg/ED
    wk 14-18 Nolvadex 20mf/ED
    wk 14-18 Creatine 5-10g/ED (depending on bodyweight)
    wk 14-18 Tribulas 3-5g/ED

    The Nolvadex will help with the water retention at 10mg/ED

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    with cyp start your pct 18days after the last shot,it is slightly longer actin than the test e so you start 18 days not 14.

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    The nolvadex pills are 20 mg so just cut the pill in half?
    What is the difference between Liquidex and Nolvadex?
    Thanks guys.

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    Yep, just cut the pill in half.
    Last edited by Aboot; 04-28-2005 at 05:58 PM.

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